Different engine on log book

bennyboy2606 · 2 Apr 2009 at 20:34

Hey,

I'm in the process of buying my first car, and looking for a cheap insurance car. I have found a couple of examples whereby the descriptions read for example:

"the car started life as a 1.1 sx and has now had a vtr turbo engine put in it so its cheap tax insurance ,up to new owner to change"

Can anybody explain to me what this actually means please?

Is it a total engine swap, and what are the implications of not changing this on the log books when it comes to insurance companies.

Thanks guys
Ben

LSPIII · 2 Apr 2009 at 20:36

You're buying a first car. Avoid these like the plague. Buy something straight. It's not like there's not enough cars out there.

Dup · 2 Apr 2009 at 20:36

It's illegal and fraud to not notify the DVLA of an engine change, as well as your insurance.

If you're looking for a 1.1, buy a 1.1. If it has modifications or an engine change you must declare them to your insurance company (Only engine and colour changes to DVLA).

bennyboy2606 · 2 Apr 2009 at 20:39

Okay thanks guys

I was looking in the region of a 1.3-1.4 can anyone suggest any cars that aren't too pricey on insurance?

thepeteh · 2 Apr 2009 at 20:44

any small 3dr car really
fiesta 1.25
clio 1.2/1.4
etc etc etc

rypt · 2 Apr 2009 at 20:46

Dup said:
It's illegal and fraud to not notify the DVLA of an engine change, as well as your insurance.

DVLA are not interested in you telling them of an engine change like that.
If you want to have the log book changed you have to get a certificate from a suitable garage as to what the engine is, what emissions and so on it is expected to have etc ... few places are willing to do that. A friend has an issue with his FC RX7, log book says it is the FD ... having had a good argument with DVLA over this for a while they will not budge without Mazda providing a certificate stating it is in fact an FC with FC engine and so on., and Mazda are not interested in doing that.

iaind · 2 Apr 2009 at 20:51

Whats your budget?

bennyboy2606 · 2 Apr 2009 at 20:52

Anything up to £1500 I'd say. Thats all I can get together, Not a lot I know

Hxc · 2 Apr 2009 at 20:55

DVLA are an awkward bunch, with seemingly little internal standards on how to do things.

Lots of PHers have prolonged battles in order to get the few misclassified TVRs back to PLG with Low Volume Approval in order to not pay tax on emissions, but rather a fixed £185.

slinxy · 2 Apr 2009 at 21:12

get a corsa sxi, cheap to run and insure. Dead easy to drive and has some street gread. Stick with gm or if you can a jap car, french and german cars in your price range will most likely need a bit of work and will be expensive.

Whats your credit rating like? As you can bag some right good deals on new saxos at the moment, but you don't really want a band new car as your first car.

Defcon5 · 2 Apr 2009 at 21:14

slinxy said:
. Whats your credit rating like? As you can bag some right good deals on new saxos at the moment, but you don't really want a band new car as your first car.

They stopped making Saxos years and years ago

Hxc · 2 Apr 2009 at 21:15

slinxy said:
get a corsa sxi, cheap to run and insure. Dead easy to drive and has some street gread. Stick with gm or if you can a jap car, french and german cars in your price range will most likely need a bit of work and will be expensive. Whats your credit rating like? As you can bag some right good deals on new saxos at the moment, but you don't really want a band new car as your first car.

What an odd post :confused:

slinxy · 2 Apr 2009 at 21:20

Defcon5 said:
They stopped making Saxos years and years ago

Opps.. C2.

bennyboy2606 · 2 Apr 2009 at 21:21

slinxy said:
get a corsa sxi, cheap to run and insure. Dead easy to drive and has some street gread. Stick with gm or if you can a jap car, french and german cars in your price range will most likely need a bit of work and will be expensive.

Whats your credit rating like? As you can bag some right good deals on new saxos at the moment, but you don't really want a band new car as your first car.

Credit at 17?

IAmATeaf · 2 Apr 2009 at 21:21

slinxy said:
get a corsa sxi, cheap to run and insure. Dead easy to drive and has some street gread. Stick with gm or if you can a jap car, french and german cars in your price range will most likely need a bit of work and will be expensive.

Whats your credit rating like? As you can bag some right good deals on new saxos at the moment, but you don't really want a band new car as your first car.

GM it is then

iaind · 2 Apr 2009 at 21:33

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/963508.htm

OK the green and beige is a bit blue rinse, but you get the idea.

Get a standard car that hasnt been within touching distance of a chav and you'll be fine.

Lopéz · 2 Apr 2009 at 21:49

rypt said:
DVLA are not interested in you telling them of an engine change like that.
If you want to have the log book changed you have to get a certificate from a suitable garage as to what the engine is, what emissions and so on it is expected to have etc ... few places are willing to do that. A friend has an issue with his FC RX7, log book says it is the FD ... having had a good argument with DVLA over this for a while they will not budge without Mazda providing a certificate stating it is in fact an FC with FC engine and so on., and Mazda are not interested in doing that.

Aren't the FC and FD RX-7 both old enough to predate emissions-based tax therefore "what emission and so on" is of no relevance?