Dilemma, I just can't decide.

Mr Men said:
Lay of the drugs :)
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You go out and build a PC. For Cheaper than a PS3. As you claim you can. And I can also, But how long will it last before it needs an upgrade? To play the latest game, at its best.

A PS3, If you buy it. It will play ALL PS3 games until the end of the consoles life span.

You buy a PC now, For 350-400 Quid, Will it play the latest games the way they were supposed to run in a year? 2 Years? 3 Years?
 
What's that got to do with a car seat? and where did I say I would build a PC that last years for £300? instead of just ranting at me try to read what I post it might well help. The point I made was a decent graphics card does not need to cost the same as a PS3, feel free to disagree with that if you must, but don't just make up what you think I said please.
 
Mr Men said:
What's that got to do with a car seat? and where did I say I would build a PC that last years for £300? instead of just ranting at me try to read what I post it might well help. The point I made was a decent graphics card does not need to cost the same as a PS3, feel free to disagree with that if you must, but don't just make up what you think I said please.
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okay, Lets take a full PC out of the equation, You saying that a graphics card you purchase now, Cheaper than a PS3. Will last Years and play games the way they were meant to be played.

Thats HD quality, Nothing disabled. Everything looking as it was meant to.

between now and the end of the PS3's life span that is.
 
Again where did I say that? Stop making things up, to make it easy for you I said "A decent GFX card right now can be had for way less than the cost of a PS3" do you understand that?

How long is the PS3's lifespan by the way? another year? some crystal ball you must have there...
 
Mr Men said:
Again where did I say that? Stop making things up, to make it easy for you I said "A decent GFX card right now can be had for way less than the cost of a PS3" do you understand that?

How long is the PS3's lifespan by the way? another year? some crystal ball you must have there...
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Get off your high horse you arrogant ass.

This is a thread about PC or PS3.

You are blabbing about the graphics card waaah graphics card all over this thread. from the beginning to the end. Its obvious what you are trying to get across. Its a preference towards the PC.

I'm saying. YES. You can get a PC graphics card for less than the PS3. SO what? Is it a sound investment when compared to a PS3? No. Why? Because in a year, You wont get the full quality out of that card.

You will a PS3, It's known that games seen on consoles only improve. As developers get more to grips with SDKs and firmware updates get released.

I'm on topic with the OP. Are you?
 
LOL so you rant at me, make things up I never said, then tell me to get of my high horse and insult me? nice and classy.

So you agree with me that you can get a decent GFX right now for less than the PS3, which was my point I made, that you then took offence to and ranted and raved about, yet here we are you actually agree with the point I made....bizarre.

And your PC GFX will still be the same in 1 years time, you will still get the exact same performance from it as you do when you buy it, do you think they get slower over time or something?

OP is not concerned too much from his post about 2 years down the line, he is thinking about now, games he wants to play now, maybe read his post too?
 
Mr Men said:
LOL so you rant at me, make things up I never said, then tell me to get of my high horse and insult me? nice and classy.

So you agree with me that you can get a decent GFX right now for less than the PS3, which was my point I made, that you then took offence to and ranted and raved about, yet here we are you actually agree with the point I made....bizarre.

And your PC GFX will still be the same in 1 years time, you will still get the exact same performance from it as you do when you buy it, do you think they get slower over time or something?

OP is not concerned too much from his post about 2 years down the line, he is thinking about now, games he wants to play now, maybe read his post too?
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Yes actually, PC GFX do change, PC GFX card don't alas.

And it's quite simple, As time passes. Games released on a PC become more demanding. PS3 games on a PS3 wont.

I would have thought you knew that.

This is a thread about which to buy originally, And i answered. A PS3.

Because it's a 1 time payment, With only improvement ahead.

Where as with your cheap graphics card. You'll be buying another card down the line, If you want to play the latest games.

You think he wants to spend a lot of money now, to spend it again when more PC games come out he wants to play?

The ones that won't run great on the card he's bought now
 
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Games do get more demanding, but the physical graphics card you buy does not lose power, does not get slower, it will still be the same.

Again maybe you should blooming read, I never once suggested he buys a cheap GFX card, all I pointed out to one person was a decent graphics card does not need to cost more than a PS3 for goodness sake, how about you take a deep breath and actually read the thread again.

Inoshishi said:
The price of a decent graphics card would probably pay for a PS3 let alone a full system.
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There you go, that was the comment I replied to that a decent gfx card does not cost more than a PS3, I never said the OP should get one, never said it would last 20 years of gaming, so how about you get down from that high horse and stop jumping down my throat for something I never once suggested.
 
Mr Men said:
Games do get more demanding, but the physical graphics card you buy does not lose power, does not get slower, it will still be the same.

Again maybe you should blooming read, I never once suggested he buys a cheap GFX card, all I pointed out to one person was a decent graphics card does not need to cost more than a PS3 for goodness sake, how about you take a deep breath and actually read the thread again.
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So you agree? A PS3 is a better long term investment? I never noticed that. Apologies.
 
wannabedamned, your point of view with regard to graphics cards is one I also subscibe to as well.
It's the continous upgrading of graphics cards that have put me off the idea of PC gaming.
It's all very well if people don't care about graphics detail but I am a graphics whore.
After paying £240 for a 6800GT, I was damned if I was going to pay more silly money for a 7900 series card a year later.
My Xbox 360 has already saved me pouring a fast amount more cash into a decent gaming PC, therefore, a PS3 for me would give me the best of both console formats.
A new decent PC spec next year is something I plan on doing but I will more than likely give a high spec graphics card.

This was one of the things I forgot to state in my orginal post.
Cheers for reminding this tired old brain :)
 
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So you agree? A PS3 is a better long term investment? I never noticed that. Apologies.
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Again where did I say that? You really have some problems, do me a favour and go to sleep, the op mentions nothing about investment for the future, PS3 could be dead next year so how about you stop making up things yet again.
 
Mr Men said:
Again where did I say that? You really have some problems, do me a favour and go to sleep, the op mentions nothing about investment for the future, PS3 could be dead next year so how about you stop making up things yet again.
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most people when spending large amount of cash see it as a future investment, Use the brain. ;)

And if your biggest argument is the PS3 could be dead next year. Then nice.
 
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wannabedamned said:
most people when spending large amount of cash see it as a future investment, Use the brain. ;)
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PS3 is spending large amounts of cash? oh ok then :)

So if he is wanting to invest his money then he should get neither, as they will both be losing him money from the minute he buys it, maybe engage 1st gear now. :p
 
Mr Men, unfortunatley I would need more than just a graphics card.
This ageing AGP box would be re-used as a server and my existing sever would probably end up on the certain auction site.
However, for 600 - 700 quid I could have a decent enough gaming PC.
At least we can have a fast gaming box for under a grand these days.
If I added up all the money I've spent between 1995 and 2005 (last time I upgraded this box) on gaming rigs, I would probably be well on the way to a 2nd hand Lotus Exige by now.
I suppose one of my problems as I am getting older is that I'm aiming to throw more money at my retirement plan than have the type of fun with cash I have been acustomed to.
Still, in 20 odd years I'll still be playing cames when I am an OAP :)
 
Mr Men said:
So if he is wanting to invest his money then he should get neither :p
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Judging by the amount of cash the 60GB PS3's are going for on the auction site, I'm wishing I had bought a few before they ran out of stock and made a killing.
It's all very well for me to say that in hindsight but what ceases to amaze me is that they are currently selling for more than they were before the recent price drop.
 
hashcake said:
Mr Men, unfortunatley I would need more than just a graphics card.
This ageing AGP box would be re-used as a server and my existing sever would probably end up on the certain auction site.
However, for 600 - 700 quid I could have a decent enough gaming PC.
At least we can have a fast gaming box for under a grand these days.
If I added up all the money I've spent between 1995 and 2005 (last time I upgraded this box) on gaming rigs, I would probably be well on the way to a 2nd hand Lotus Exige by now.
I suppose one of my problems as I am getting older is that I'm aiming to throw more money at my retirement plan than have the type of fun with cash I have been acustomed to.
Still, in 20 odd years I'll still be playing cames when I am an OAP :)
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Yeah I agree, I am still on AGP as well and I can't be bothered to update it as it still runs the games I want to play just now anyway, plus like you with the 360 gives you decent gaming at decent price. So if you really can't do without those PS3 games then go for that :) And Crysis is meant to be a bit over-rated anyway so spending £600 just to play that might be a bit overkill haha, never know it might appear on consoles anyway :D
 
hashcake said:
Judging by the amount of cash the 60GB PS3's are going for on the auction site, I'm wishing I had bought a few before they ran out of stock and made a killing.
It's all very well for me to say that in hindsight but what ceases to amaze me is that they are currently selling for more than they were before the recent price drop.
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Oh yeah that's true now, but that won't last long
 
The PC is not worth the money to play crysis, i just spent over a grand on a new pc to play crysis and UT3 and it dosent run crysis that well (high detail 1680x1050 about 20-40fps).

If you have the money and can afford it, then get a ps3 and a new pc, if you can only afford one, id get the pc but know that you wont be playing it at 60fps on anything less than 1024x768 and medium settings. I play and enjoy my ps3 (more than the 360 at the moment), but thats due to buying guitar hero and drakes fortune, with singstar out next week, that trend will continue.

I am just glad that i own a decent pc, ps3, 360 and wii so that i have no need to feel that i have post crazy fanboy responses to honest questions in some strange attempt to justify a purchase of the solitary machine that i may own. I would take with a pinch of salt any advice that someone like this might offer, as unfortunately if they cant have something, they feel better by trying to detract others from having enjoyment out of it.
 
If you're buying it for Crysis alone, then get a PS3 - it's not worth it for just one hype-game. If you can find some other reason(s)/other games, then get the PC. Personally, I think the console is more likely to give you a reasonable bang:buck ratio :)
 
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