Jesus Christ i believe was a perfect human being. You're just looking at it from your basic worldview so you only understand the reprodutive process from a humans point of view and not that from an Almighty God of creation. God created the universe the earth and man and animal. But you have no understanding of the spirit person that God is so it's way over your day to day thinking capabilities chap at this moment in time.
Dinosaurs are not real :(
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Prove to me that (your definition of) God is real? Oh right, you cant.
You cannot have a human being without a (human) sperm and egg. NOT possible.
It's not, by natural means.
But given that God is, by definition, supernatural, this should be the least of our concerns.
But whats the definition of God? According to Castiel there isnt one.
And what proof / evidence do you or anyone else have of any definition you can give me?
So religion, at least Christianity, is unnatural and conflicts with all areas of Science.
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Jesus was a perfect human being? And yet he was still born in the usual messy, dangerous-to-the-mother fashion and was undeveloped (as all human infants are compared to other animals). Surely his arrival would have made more impact if he'd have phased out of Mary's unmarked belly and then said "Greetings Mary. I am here to redeem the world"?
Best fall back on the old "God is so complex you'll never understand him" argument. AKA The "get out of logic jail" card.
Best fall back on the old "God is so complex you'll never understand him" argument. AKA The "get out of logic jail" card.
Surely you can see why this is considered by many to be an absolute cop out of an answer?
Yes that's according to you, i'm not a scientist only someone who is interested in Science and God, so there is only so much i can debate based on my limited knowledge. Someone offered a written public debate to have these questions answered in scientific terms but there are no takers.
If the countless films and literature and tv shows have tought us anything, Jesus wasn't perfect, he was a ginger.
Well, it isn't
Not unless you're delusional/foolish/trolling.
How is trying to discuss the gospel and pointing out any fallacies within it trolling?
So according to you, religious people are delusional?
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Why? I believe in something beyond the realms of what science can measure. Surely you can see why it's extremely narrow minded to believe that a human construct for predictively modelling events could be able to conclude on every issue we could possibly encounter?
The cosmic science, earth science and life science show me intelligent design, every where i look i see intelligent design even in many man made things, and so do other scientists from different scientific fields of study.
Kedge, there have been numerous peer-reviewed papers on the evolution of the eye. The whole idea of peer-review and publication is to allow other people to have debates, albeit in a written form. Your "argument" is nonsense.
Well, it isn't
Not unless you're delusional/foolish/trolling.
Are you calling religious people delusional? I love how the mod community is so well united that spw can say one thing and then a horde of mods can turn up and say something contradictory. Either get rid of spw's sticky saying religious belief is protected, or quit calling us names.
Prove to me that we evolved from none living matter...oh look you can't can you?.
Really? Where do you start!
Well, surely any God who isn't beyond the realms of the "natural" is no God at all?
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I think that's a bit of a logical leap. If God exists then he is a superset above the science that he created, and is thus able to conflict with science to the extent that some parts of him exist beyond the realms of science.
It isn't. Absolutely not.
Absolute belief in what you think might have been held in some books hundreds of years ago that were written decades or hundreds of years after Jesus died and that mostly contradict each other is foolish, IMO.
There were three different avenues. Delusional wasn't the only one
Inorganic matter evolving into organic matter has already been proven within Chemistry, I have no desire to spend a whole day searching science journals to find the article for you though.
I agree with this, but it describes the majority of Christians. Im not aware of a single Christian that doesnt believe in anything written in the bible.
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