Very clever. Now tell me about Allah and where Muhammad fits into all this? Or are you being facetious as well?
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Very clever. Now tell me about Allah and where Muhammad fits into all this? Or are you being facetious as well?
According to Islam, both Jesus and Muhammad were ordinary men.
According to the Bible, Jesus himself never claimed to be god.
The biggest reason why Islam hates Christianity is because they claim that Jesus was god / the literal son of god when this was never said by Jesus himself.
'There is no God but Allah, and Muhammed (and Jesus!) is (were) his messenger(s)'.
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Questions:
Why would 'god' need to inseminate a woman on Earth by supposedly 'divine intervention' in order to put his son on Earth when he supposedly has omnipotent powers ??
Why are Christians waiting for a second coming of Jesus when 2000 years have gone by & no-one can be proven to have seen sight nor sound of him ??
If there is a god what purpose does he serve ??
Why are we told more & more not to take the bible literally when science makes a mockery of some of the stories one by one ?? Why shouldn't all of the bible be taken literally?
Why did Noah put mosquitoes & Tsetse flies on the ark resulting in the deaths of countless millions of innocent children right up to this present day??
Why do some Popes & other church leaders die of Cancer or heart attacks ??
Is there a similarity in people who in believe in god whilst also believing in astrology??
And actually believe that the star you are born under defines your personality & avidly read the daily fail to see what's likely to happen during the day/week??
Why would 'god' need to inseminate a woman on Earth by supposedly 'divine intervention' in order to put his son on Earth when he supposedly has omnipotent powers ??
Why are Christians waiting for a second coming of Jesus when 2000 years have gone by & no-one can be proven to have seen sight nor sound of him ??
If there is a god what purpose does he serve ??
Why are we told more & more not to take the bible literally when science makes a mockery of some of the stories one by one ?? Why shouldn't all of the bible be taken literally?
Why did Noah put mosquitoes & Tsetse flies on the ark resulting in the deaths of countless millions of innocent children right up to this present day??
Why do some Popes & other church leaders die of Cancer or heart attacks ??
Is there a similarity in people who in believe in god whilst also believing in astrology??
And actually believe that the star you are born under defines your personality & avidly read the daily fail to see what's likely to happen during the day/week??
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The big bang theory does not rule out magical aliens creating the universe because the big bang theory does not cover the cause of the existence of the universe. The big bang theory does not cover the beginning of the universe anyway.
The big bang theory is an explanation of how the universe developed from an extremely small amount of time after it began. That's not the same thing as an explanation of the cause of the existence of the universe. It does not rule out the possibility that magical aliens created the universe - maybe they set off the big bang. There's no reason to think that's what happened, but the big bang theory does not disprove it.
There is one mention of them, but it's just something else in the Christian bible, so it isn't evidence of anything other than what the people who wrote it either believed to be true or wanted other people to believe was true.
correct,the ultimate question is what happened before the big bang,i'mm sure the god heads on here know though as they know everything
correct,the ultimate question is what happened before the big bang,i'mm sure the god heads on here know though as they know everything
I'm not sure that's the correct question either, because it's entirely possible that the phrase "before the big bang" is completely meaningless:
Premise: The big bang was the beginning of the universe.
Premise: Time is a part of the universe.
Conclusion: Time began with the big bang, so there can't be any such thing as "before the big bang".
aye but i didn't say anything about time,obviously our brains can't comprehend before that,as we simply don't know yet.
also your only going from our version of events,the universe goes by our law of physics,it dosn't mean it goes with any other Existence in the universe
'before' refers to time. So yes, you did say something about time.
but time is only the way humans see things,Time began with the big bang you say,that is only in human terms,this box,matrix or whatever we want to call it,existed long before we came along and stamped our mark on it.
Even if time as we understand it hypothetically began with the big bang, this doesnt mean that. nothing existed before it.
It is possible that even before our universe began, something still existed before, or outside of that.
We really cant even tell that our universe is the only universe. Regardless of how incredibly vast our own universe is, what if there are other universes? What if there are unlimited universes with spaces of pre - universe nothingness inbetween them, in which other 'big bangs' may still occur?
If one universe expands into another, maybe they simple merge, or there is some violent reaction which we will never know about because we are too far away from the edge and points of collision between our universe and others.
It is possible that even before our universe began, something still existed before, or outside of that.
We really cant even tell that our universe is the only universe. Regardless of how incredibly vast our own universe is, what if there are other universes? What if there are unlimited universes with spaces of pre - universe nothingness inbetween them, in which other 'big bangs' may still occur?
If one universe expands into another, maybe they simple merge, or there is some violent reaction which we will never know about because we are too far away from the edge and points of collision between our universe and others.
cheers bhavv,i am just about to go to bed,now i have to think about parallel universes lol,i can see it now,swirling eyes trying to get some kip
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...this is what I meant with regards to us not knowing whether a powerpuff universe exists or not hahaha, along with the fact that the universe is infinitely large
Only a fool can make such a bold statement.
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I don't think it's foolish, it's a lack of understanding. And it's probably a level of understanding that we can never attain unfortunately.
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Carbon dating only works for some tens of thousands of years. Uranium lead dating is what you mean. Sorry for being pedantic
As for the main topic, I've long since given up trying to debate things logically with religious zealots. As in your post, they just say "it's a test of my faith" whenever you provide them with irrefutable evidence of why their beliefs are a load of crap. It's pointless trying to debate with people like that, as they have their belief and that belief includes a clause preventing any form of evidence or reasoning to demonstrate its incorrectness. The "it's a test" clause.
Religion, and creationism in particular, is IMO stupid (although I respect others don't share that opinion) because it relies solely on faith. Faith REQUIRES a lack of any evidence to function. If they had evidence of God, they wouldn't need faith would they? So religion by it's nature ignores evidence and therein lies the problem. There is NO reasoning with someone who ignores evidence.
And don't even get me started on the people that try to back up creationism and/or religion with what they laughably call "proof". Those people are even worse. They are genuinely retarded. They think mainstream science is the 'enemy' of religion and that scientists do everything they can to try and discount it. Which is of course complete ********. Scientists believe what the evidence tells them. If there was evidence of God, or creationsim, then scientists would believe it. So to attempt to "prove" science "wrong" is the most idiotically futile endeavour I've ever witnessed.
Rant over.
EDIT: I should clarify. In this post when I say "creationism" I am talking about young earth creationism. Apologies for the ambiguity.
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