Dis has awoken the wrath of the leftists
No, he just displayed the bigotry of the right for everyone to see. :-
Makes a refreshing change tbh, since it's usually you.
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No, he just displayed the bigotry of the right for everyone to see. :-
Makes a refreshing change tbh, since it's usually you.
Considering not breaking a law and becoming a criminal over here is a requirement of his visa, I think its fair to ask why he has not been deported, especially as he has no custodial sentence.
Why would anyone have an issue with him being deported anyway? He's not a British citizen. He's here on a student visa. It should be a privilege to come over here to study, not a right. And instead of making the most of that opportunity, he decides to break the law instead. 
If it's "far right bigotry" to want to cancel his visa despite him being a sex pest then we are truly lost.
Fair enough. But if you can avoid extradition to most of the world by simply claiming you are gay and that you would be discriminated against in prison, then it's something that clearly needs changing.
Where do we draw the line? I'm sure gay guys get discriminated against in UK prisons too. Should we just not imprison them at all?
If it's "far right bigotry" to want to cancel his visa despite him being a sex pest then we are truly lost.
Fair enough. But if you can avoid extradition to most of the world by simply claiming you are gay and that you would be discriminated against in prison, then it's something that clearly needs changing.
Where do we draw the line? I'm sure gay guys get discriminated against in UK prisons too. Should we just not imprison them at all?
Why would anyone have an issue with him being deported anyway? He's not a British citizen. He's here on a student visa. It should be a privilege to come over here to study, not a right. And instead of making the most of that opportunity, he decides to break the law instead.
If it's "far right bigotry" to want to cancel his visa despite him being a sex pest then we are truly lost.
Fair enough. But if you can avoid extradition to most of the world by simply claiming you are gay and that you would be discriminated against in prison, then it's something that clearly needs changing.
Where do we draw the line? I'm sure gay guys get discriminated against in UK prisons too. Should we just not imprison them at all?
Your gay example is actually spot on...
Migrant who sexually assaulted woman stays in UK after claiming he is gay
Pakistani sex offender’s asylum case to be reheard after Home Office legal blunder
www.telegraph.co.uk
Dis has awoken the wrath of the leftists
nothing to do with politicals here... he's admitted guilt and the courts has sentence him according to what they have deemed a fair for the crime.
People seem to forget that in the last 100 years, 55 of them was govern by Torries and only 30 of them was govern by Labour. Plenty of time in the last period of 14 years for the right to have amended the sentencing guidelines and the law.
The fact that the courts didn't revoke visa means they are allowed to stay, maybe people should write to their MPs if they feel that strongly about it.
There is no safeguarding issue at all.. safeguarding only applies to minors and adults at risk, the crime was against the teddy bears...
The justice system is a farce. This is quite clearly a sexual crime and warrants a custodial sentence - instead, he's been given community service. Secondly, the amount he has to pay is merely the cost of the items - that doesn't take into account any extra faff in replacing them or indeed the additional impact on the victim.
He's clearly in breach of his visa and frankly deserves to be expelled from the uni, regardless - not a student anymore -> reason for being in the UK ceases and he absolutely ought to be deported.
I'm open to arguments that people on student visas shouldn't necessarily need to be complete saints - sure, they can be caught speeding perhaps or stealing a traffic cone etc.. but breaking into a female student's room and then doing that indicates a perverse individual and a danger to female students on campus - he shouldn't be here anymore.
Some people get one-shotted by the US/progressive stuff on social media - there is lots of hysteria over not deporting immigrants in the US right now, and that just gets transferred over here, even though our system isn't really comparable. The same thing happened with BLM, even though UK police hardly kill anyone - it's just mindless parroting of whatever is trending.
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It will be because, Brazil's jails are terrible and he's likely to die or be in conditions that are defined as like torture in law.
You don't need a country to state they will torture someone, or keep them in inhumane conditoons that make it against UK law to send people there, if it's known those are the general conditions.
It is the same reason we will not deport people to the USA if the death penalty is a likely outcome.
We do not normally deport people to conditions where there is a high chance they will be treated in a way that is illegal under our HR acts etc.
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What were his original intentions though, why did he enter this room?
Knowingly went in to a room he shouldn't be in, spaffed all over the room inhabitant's soft toys and then denied it when caught. It's wild that he would be allowed to stay at all.
These aren't the actions of a stable individual, the university should have no say over anything. Visa should be cancelled immediately and he should be on the first plane back home, where he can feel free to coat all the soft toys he likes with his juices.
Knowingly went in to a room he shouldn't be in, spaffed all over the room inhabitant's soft toys and then denied it when caught. It's wild that he would be allowed to stay at all.
These aren't the actions of a stable individual, the university should have no say over anything. Visa should be cancelled immediately and he should be on the first plane back home, where he can feel free to coat all the soft toys he likes with his juices.
And?
Maybe some people should realise that FO comes after FA, and the sooner the better.
These people need an example made of them and the message will soon get out that we will not tolerate degenerate behaviour.
Or of course we can give these people a few hours of community service and a rap on the knuckles and send out the message that we’re not a serious country when it comes to dealing with crime, which could be argued is exactly what’s happening.
She thinks they're cute / they remind her of home / they were a gift from her nan, boyfriend etc / she has autism / she likes to collect them / does it really matter its harmless.
Would it be better if he was in her room ******* over the 5090 in her gamimg PC?
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"I just wandered in to the wrong room, but then a saw the 5090 and was overcome with desire."
Definitely would fit in on these forums.
He's not likely to die and I don't believe they attempted to claim that when making the application.
That's moot; since 1989 the UK seeks assurances re: the dealth penalty - it's never a likely outcome and AFAIK we've never outright refused any deportations on those grounds regardless - nor has the US ever executed anyone extradited from the UK.
Personally I think our human rights laws are a bit of a mess and we either need to fix it with the assistance of other European countries or withdraw from the ECHR - whatever intentions legislators originally had have been warped by judges over time.
We seem to have curtailed things like freedom of speech but also take a maximalist position on things like right to a "private and family life" - which gets used to further claims by criminals who wish to remain at the expense of the rest of us. In this Brazilian case it would be under the provision against "inhumane and degrading treatment or punishment", but they're not necessarily due to face that if extradited it's more just a possible risk within Brazilian prisons just as arguably it's a possible risk in any prison in any number of countries. With this sort of mentality in theory it could be argued we can't extradite to the vast majority of the world save for maybe Scandinavia as we'll have no risk tolerance at all for the welfare of the criminals while simultaneously ignoring any risks we're then implicitly trading off wr.t our own population.
Something that is in place to prohibit signatores from engaging in inhumane and degrading treatment and could be reasonably appled to prohibit an extradition to a country where the state engages in such behaviour as a matter of course is now being applied where it's more a possibility and the country is a bit poorer/prisons not run so well etc. It's one thing to not extradite someone to North Korea etc.. it's quite another to take a position whereby any fugitives from any country that isn't a 1st world Western country can potentialy have a get out of jail card.
This is a rather ridiculous situation - a wanted alleged child rapist can live freely running a business in London because some barrister has run with a complete stretch w.r.t ECHR and the current status quo allows for that, wanted alleged murderers and other criminals are able to stay here because we're putting so much weight on the possibility of harm or degrading treatment to them while completely ignoring the risks to the general public from dangerous foreign criminals.
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Well, I Googled for "female university student" and it seems they're all relatively fit...
But my question to you is - What do you mean by "was she fit"...?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but she's not dead. Mildly traumatised, and perhaps taking a more unhealthy interest in alternative lifestyles than previously as a coping mechanism, but still alive and thus presumably still fit.... no?
Is that not what people here already do, either over their own or over the webshop pages?
Besides, the real question is whether the resulting deposit would improve the temps... and whether you go for the pea, cross, splurge or spread method.
Are you speaking from experience?
Why do you think i had to move to Sweden?
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The judges in this country prioritise the welfare of individual criminals over the safety of its own citizens.
You can say they're only interpreting the law, but surely the weight of public opinion on things like this means the interpretation (or the laws themselves) need to be changed.
You can say they're only interpreting the law, but surely the weight of public opinion on things like this means the interpretation (or the laws themselves) need to be changed.
I don't see how anyone can argue against the deportation/removal of any tourist/guest/student/work visa holder from your country if they commit a crime of enough severity that would have a custodial sentence to a citizen.
Id expect the same treatment to me if i visited anywhere.
If i visit a country (******** country) with death penalties or other draconian rules for smuggling or religious blasphemy etc id know the rules before i go.
Id expect the same treatment to me if i visited anywhere.
If i visit a country (******** country) with death penalties or other draconian rules for smuggling or religious blasphemy etc id know the rules before i go.
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The first one of that ilk that can gladly go is Lord Hermer.