Display/operating system issue

rossk26

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Ok so not sure which section of the forum this should be in, as im not sure whether is a graphics issue, monitor issue or operating system issue.

Basically I have a Nvidia 9600GT 1GB connect to that is my PC monitor LG LED 22" and my TV 32'" LCD.

My issue is that when playing DVD's the quality is very poor, almost grainy. But I have installed windows 7 on my PC too, and when playing through that, the quality improve quite a bit. So im wondering where my problem lies. I played the movie on Vista 64-bit through windows media player, and on 7 64-bit through media player too. I also tried VLC player on Vista too, and that was same poor quality

So does anyone know what could be causing this issue? Im guessing its not the monitor or graphics as they work fine with games and web browsing.
I have the latest drivers on Vista.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Ross
 
any chance of a screen shot ? VLC has a capture button

Are they legit DVD's?

Have you installed various codecs?

Have you tried any 3rd part programs like PowerDVD?
 
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A DVD on a smaller monitor is going to look better than a higher resolution monitor, it's probably scaling the image more and as a result (combined with the fact it's a larger panel) colours will be more washed out and grainy.

Try blu ray!
 
Mp4 said:
any chance of a screen shot ? VLC has a capture button

Are they legit DVD's?

Have you installed various codecs?

Have you tried any 3rd part programs like PowerDVD?
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Yeh they are legit DVD's, was rented from blockbuster, infact the ones i have erm ..... found in my house!!! ;) are better quality than rented DVD's!!!!!!

How do i install codecs?

I will try on PowerDVD as ive used that with my old PC and i actually like it. Will post screenshots of a DVD tonight when i get home
 
Hairybudda said:
A DVD on a smaller monitor is going to look better than a higher resolution monitor, it's probably scaling the image more and as a result (combined with the fact it's a larger panel) colours will be more washed out and grainy.

Try blu ray!
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How much does the average Blu Ray drive cost to install on my PC?
 
Before you go and consider buying a blu-ray drive try downloading some 1080 content from the web and knock it through both outputs just to make sure it is an issue with the upscaling.
 
rossk26 said:
Yeh they are legit DVD's, was rented from blockbuster, infact the ones i have erm ..... found in my house!!! ;) are better quality than rented DVD's!!!!!!

How do i install codecs?

I will try on PowerDVD as ive used that with my old PC and i actually like it. Will post screenshots of a DVD tonight when i get home
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http://shark007.net/ < win 7 64bit codecs
 
Hairybudda said:
Before you go and consider buying a blu-ray drive try downloading some 1080 content from the web and knock it through both outputs just to make sure it is an issue with the upscaling.
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You know any decent websites where i can view these? My monitor is 1650x1050. So 1080 should be ok?

You would think DVD's would be made to higher resolutions wouldn't you!!!

Can anyone recommend a good converter to up the res? I used DivX once, and the results were actually good, but my trial period is up and dont really wanna pay

Thanks
 
do you have a ps3?

& for the DVD resolution

http://hometheater.about.com/od/blurayandhddvd/f/blurayhddvd2.htm < source



The Upscaling Process

Upscaling is a process that mathematically matches the pixel count of the output of the DVD signal to the physical pixel count on an HDTV, which is typically 1280x720 (720p) or 1920x1080 (1080i - and, in many cases, 1080p).

720p represents 1,280 pixels displayed across the screen horizontally and 720 pixels down the screen vertically. This arrangement yields 720 horizontal lines on the screen, which are, in turn, displayed progressively, or each line displayed following another.

1080i represents 1,920 pixels displayed across a screen horizontally and 1,080 pixels down a screen vertically. This arrangement yields 1,080 horizontal lines, which are, in turn, displayed alternately. In other words, all the odd lines are displayed, followed by all the even lines.

1080p, on the other hand, represents 1,080 horizontal lines displayed sequentially. This means all lines are displayed during the same pass. 1080p is the highest quality HD display format.

The Practical Effect Of DVD Upscaling

Visually, there is very little difference to the eye of the average consumer between 720p and 1080i. However, 720p can deliver a slightly smoother-looking image, due to the fact that lines and pixels are displayed in a consecutive pattern, rather than in an alternate pattern.

The upscaling process does a good job of matching the upscaled pixel output of a DVD player to the native pixel display resolution of an HDTV capable television, resulting in better detail and color consistency.

However, upscaling, as it is currently implemented, cannot convert standard DVD images into true high-definition images. In fact, although upscaling works well with fixed pixel displays, such as Plasma and LCD televisions, results are not always consistent on CRT-based high definition televisions.

Points to Remember:

1. Any DVD player can be hooked up to an HDTV. Although upscaling DVD players are better able to match the native pixel resolution of an HDTV, you may good results on a standard DVD player that is connected via an HDTV's provided Component or S-Video inputs.

2. If you DO have an HDTV, and a standard DVD player, you will get the best results using the Component video connection (red-blue-green) between the DVD player and the HDTV. In addition, if your DVD player is progressive scan capable, always use that option when connected to a progressive scan capable television. However, if your DVD player also has upscaling capability, you must must an HDMI connection to access this extra capability.

3. DVD video upscaling is only an approximation of the high definition viewing experience. To get the full impact of true high definition viewing from a disc format, you need to have either a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player connected to an HDTV via an HDMI connection and be viewing actual Blu-ray or HD-DVD disc content.

Upscaled DVD (even when its good) tends to look a little flatter and softer (especially in the background) than Blu-ray or HD-DVD. Also, in terms of color, when looking at Reds and Blues, it is also easy to tell the difference in most cases, as even with upscaled DVD, reds and blues have a tendency to override detail that may be underneath, while the same colors in Blu-ray are very tight and you still see the detail under the color.
 
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Mp4 said:
do you have a ps3?

My brother has ps3, ive got an xbox360. And im sure the dvd plays better on my xbox than it does on my PC.

Which is ridiculous considering the graphics in my PC should be better than xbox.
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Well another way to test your monitor link it to your bros ps3 and connect it via HDMI and go from there. See if the blue ray quality is any good.

Have you tried any codecs or powerDVD as of yet?
 
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Im currently still at work, will download codecs and powerDVD tonight.

Will get back to you with results of all your suggestions

Thanks again!
 
Ok so i downloaded powerDVD which actually made the image quality worse

I have literally just downloaded the latest nvidia drivers

I know this is a fault know, becuase i wanted to watch the match on my PC but the quality was so poor i eventually settled with watching it on my laptop.
 
Ive took the liberty of taking a screenshot from within VLC player to show the seriousness of this problem

crappypicture.jpg
 
Somebody please help me with this, i can't continue to watch crappy quality films! This is the main purpose of my PC! other than gaming ;)
 
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