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Don’t really give a monkeys about the money it’s the nice burn ive got on my arm when a meter blew up because of some idiot trying to fiddle it.
 
wolvotim said:
Don’t really give a monkeys about the money it’s the nice burn ive got on my arm when a meter blew up because of some idiot trying to fiddle it.

and that has to do with me......? exactly

shoudn't have been near it any then should you silly

also, I ain't an idiot and I didn't fiddle. I rigged it then put it back it. Simple.
 
Biohazard said:
and that has to do with me......? exactly

shoudn't have been near it any then should you silly

also, I ain't an idiot and I didn't fiddle. I rigged it then put it back it. Simple.

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And I was called to a "no incoming supply" at the house. It blew up because the idiot had knackered his meter in the process of trying to fiddle it. He wasn’t exactly gona tell me "oh watch out for the dangerous meter ive just tried to fiddle it"
 
ooooh no people like me eh? gawd, hang me now! :D :D

and how exactly can you knacker a meter? It only has two imputs two outputs for pre pay, not rocket science...

again whats this got to do with me? explain please cause your really confusing me or mixing me up with that person. That meter got changed over to a white meter by Scottish power and it certainly never blew that chaps arm off or mine for that matter.... I was in watching him (good way to learn).


I'm sorry someone caused a burn on your arm, go to counselling or whatever, cry into your pillow at night but stop moaning at me wee man
 
Funnily enough I was talking about this just yesterday with my dad, we weren't sure if it had been made completly illegal (like gas). If it had my dad (a builder with no qualifications but 25 years of 'on the job' training ie working) would no have been able to touch the wiring in our house. Its just another way of making money from people. The same with corgi, my dad used to be registered with them until a few years ago when the registration fee became so stupidly high he couldn't justify the cost.

Biohazard said:
What gc123 should be saying is, if you get a qualified electrician to do the work they can self certificate the job.

Theres that word again, Why does someone have to go to college to be able to know something. My dad doesn't have any qualifications but he has probably forgotten more than most newly qualified electricians know! Why should he have to pay someone to have a look at his wiring? :confused:

I can see the point in some ways but as with just about every regulation this government has put in it has gone too far. If it goes on like this we will have to wrap ourselves in 'non flammable' cotton wool ever time we go out of our rubber coated houses. :rolleyes:

There are risks in life, get over it, I want to be allowed to swing from trees and electrucute myself if i want as its my body and my mistake to make. By all means if your worried about your house going up when you buy it hire an electician to look at the wiring... :mad:
 
Biohazard said:
anyway, what were you doing working on a meter with the 60 breaker still in place? :confused:

I was going to test the load side of the meter to see if it was actually putting out anything. If it was its the customers problem as our responsibility stops at the meter. Cant really do that if you take the cut-out fuse out. I didn’t actually get chance to get the front off it before it blew.

Biohazard said:
and how exactly can you knacker a meter? It only has two imputs two outputs for pre pay, not rocket science...

He had cross threaded terminal screws on the supply side of the meter. When i tryed to take the cover off the live incomer flicked out and hit the earth terminal.

Biohazard said:
again whats this got to do with me? explain please cause your really confusing me or mixing me up with that person. That meter got changed over to a white meter by Scottish power and it certainly never blew that chaps arm off or mine for that matter.... I was in watching him (good way to learn).

Fare enough but you or him wasn’t working on a meter that had been tampered with.

Biohazard said:
I'm sorry someone caused a burn on your arm, go to counselling or whatever, cry into your pillow at night but stop moaning at me wee man

Oh forgive me you were well within you writes to steal electricity. It’s nothing like walking in to asda and stealing 10 quids worth of food
 
wolvotim said:
He had cross threaded terminal screws on the supply side of the meter. When i tryed to take the cover off the live incomer flicked out and hit the earth terminal.

is that not what multimeters are for?? was this pre-pay or white?

are you talking about the terminals at the bottom of the meter itself?

anyway, you surely know there is more than that way to do it as well. You don't need to touch the meter at all.

I still think it very daft that you investigated this meter with the supply on, you not even think to pull the breaker and have a look first?

wolvotim said:
Oh forgive me you were well within you writes to steal electricity. It’s nothing like walking in to asda and stealing 10 quids worth of food

Rights, not writes. Anyhoo, yes I was :D Am I going to hear anything else from an energy supplier employee? ASDA food steal ain't easy, you've got the guards to contend with, plus the only thing I would want to nick from ASDA would be the 14" stonebake with four toppings, probably peporoni, onion, mushroom and sweetcorn.... and I am going to look like a numpty walking out with that stuffed up my top with all the toppings dribbling down my kegs :p
 
Biohazard said:
ASDA food steal ain't easy, you've got the guards to contend with, plus the only thing I would want to nick from ASDA would be the 14" stonebake with four toppings, probably peporoni, onion, mushroom and sweetcorn.... and I am going to look like a numpty walking out with that stuffed up my top with all the toppings dribbling down my kegs :p

Eat it before you leave. :p
 
For most people electrics might be easy, but not everyone is competent.

The house I've just bought has wall lights running off the socket ring and sockets running of the light ring.

It's crazy and the socket they have set up was pretty dangerous (now removed).
 
AmaTeX said:
Dont they cook them for you at the back?

not at my one, they put it on a spinny radiator thing to shrink up the cling film then you PAY FOR IT ( :p ) and stick it in the oven back home, 12 mins later eat your heart out! Only for £3.99! Brill :)
 
[DOD]Asprilla said:
For most people electrics might be easy, but not everyone is competent.

The house I've just bought has wall lights running off the socket ring and sockets running of the light ring.

It's crazy and the socket they have set up was pretty dangerous (now removed).

that is dodgy, and a nightmare for fault finding aswell! :o
 
Biohazard said:
that is dodgy, and a nightmare for fault finding aswell! :o

Yeah, fortunately we are having the electicals redone room by room as we have the walls replastered. Had the electrician check everything else when he first came though.
 
I`m not sure why people here are soo worried about working with main electricity when half of them would probably open their PSU to change fans..etc without hesitation. I've helped my dad install 2 ring mains in the house (before this stupid law) - one in the attic which supplies power supplies to the upstairs TVs (hiding all cabling to them), to the network hub and sky box and another to the water feature and garden lighting. It doesnt take a genius to do and certainly no qualification. If you have any basic understanding of what to do its fairly simple to do.

Stupid law IMO that will do nothing to reduce deaths from electrical accidents. There are far too many homes that have anchient wiring that should be replaced before we start worrying about this stuff.
 
Usel said:
I see what your saying AcidHell2 but not everyone is that sensible and also wouldn't you want to be safe in the knowledge that when you buy a property it hasn't been wired by a moron? Say the shower for instanse would you really want to use if it wasn't wired safely.

Sure you may say that you would go round and check all the wiring but what if you didn't know anything about wiring?

I've known somebody lay a mains cable to a summer house through a conifir hedge. Later on he sold the property and the new residents didn't know about this. What happens if one day they decide to chop down the hedge? they could have a nasty surprise.

P.S After they moved in I told them about mains cable myself. Wouldn't want an accident to happen that I could have prevented.

Have seen someone run SWA to an outside light and terminate it in a Tee junction box to flex wire using tape alone, and no glands or anything to actually hold the SWA to the box, the armour was 'twisted' on to a hole drilled in the box, and one end of the Tee box was just there, opened to the elements, further crappery ensued as the flex cable was simply buried in the dirt under some bushes, every time it rained heavy the MCB went, wonder why.
 
A mate of mine bought a house off another mate of mine but they didn't know each other.
The original owner of the house was a DIY'er and his house looked perfect inside. he even went on to do other peoples houses including wiring, plumbing, installing alarms etc. He moved to another part of the country and opened up a computer business.
My mate then decided to do a lot of new jobs on his house and this is when he found the original owner was a conman. The list of bad work that was done by him is endless.
My mate was fitting a new door when he noticed the wall move - it was basically made of plywood.
When building a proper wall he started to bang and heard tiles falling off in the kitchen - the original owner had stuck all the tiles on with a tiny bit of paste in the middle of each tile.
His shoddy wiring in the kitchen went underneath a tap.
The earth wire all around the house was live.
The water in the bathroom wasn't running very fast so they pulled the floorboards up and the original owner had bent the pipes into 90 deg angles without the proper tools.
the list goes on and on and my mate estimated that it cost him £10,000 putting everything right.
This is why the government wants to protect us.
 
dmpoole said:
This is why the government wants to protect us.

but it wont, conmen with a qualification can still say it's fine..

It's got nothing to do with protecting us, its to create new jobs and ultimately bring in tax from the vat to certify and or install electrics.
 
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