Depends on the circumstances. My mum bought a house with an extension that had never been signed off. I think the seller had to arrange an indemnity policy? Didn't cost a lot anyway and it was no major hassle.
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Yes it does depend on the circumstances, going from just never got round to applying for completion to built completely outwith the regs.
The indemnity insurance usual only covers you for prosecution from not complying with Building Regs.
I'm not on a crusade to prevent people doing diy work just to put some facts forward having been involved in Building Control enforcement works that involved demolishing someones diy extension. All at their expense after being fined and having to pay an additional fine for everyday it remained not built to regs.
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Can somebody please confirm whether it is notifiable if I was to take a live off the upstairs lighting ring to feed an extractor over a shower? As I understand it, being over 2.25m makes it zone 0 therefore not notifiable.
Is it a centrifugal fan in the loft? Ie all wiring and connections are in the loft and not the bathroom? If so, then your wiring in the loft not the bathroom which therefore to the best of my understanding cannot be notifiable.....
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Yup the whole shabang will be in the loft.
Take my house for example. Wiring is all outside the bathroom, fan is in the loft, isolator is in the loft, switch is in the hallway..... The only component inside the bathroom is the plastic fan grille.
This is usually where electricians start banging the "everything to do with a bathroom is notifiable" drum, but as literally none of the elements are in the bathroom I just can't see it being the case. But I'm just what they would call on the Screwfix forums a "dafty DIYer" so you should probably take my advice with a pinch of salt
This is usually where electricians start banging the "everything to do with a bathroom is notifiable" drum, but as literally none of the elements are in the bathroom I just can't see it being the case. But I'm just what they would call on the Screwfix forums a "dafty DIYer" so you should probably take my advice with a pinch of salt
Take my house for example. Wiring is all outside the bathroom, fan is in the loft, isolator is in the loft, switch is in the hallway..... The only component inside the bathroom is the plastic fan grille.
This is usually where electricians start banging the "everything to do with a bathroom is notifiable" drum, but as literally none of the elements are in the bathroom I just can't see it being the case. But I'm just what they would call on the Screwfix forums a "dafty DIYer" so you should probably take my advice with a pinch of salt
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Anything over 2.25 meters is out of the zone so don't worry about it. The regs say that you can have a 230v socket under the bath as long as you need tools (screwdriver etc) to take the bath panel out. It's a a bit mad.
As mentioned above it's not notifiable as it's outside zones.
That doesn't mean you should just go ahead and do what you want though as going by your post you don't really understand how lighting circuits are generally configured (they're not a ring) or how an extractor fan needs to be wired, or how to test to ensure that the alterations you're planning on making will be adequate in activating the MCB or (hopefully) RCD in the event of a fault.
I wonder what MFT all the DIYers use after altering fixed wiring to ensure all ADS components still operate correctly, not to mention finding continuity and R1+R2 present.
I'm aware of the "competent" person clause, surely testing and correctly analysing the results is paramount to being competent? Not much point in putting extra points on a ring or popping some extra lights in if the RCD no longer works or the ring has no end to ends or the Zs is massive.
I'm aware of the "competent" person clause, surely testing and correctly analysing the results is paramount to being competent? Not much point in putting extra points on a ring or popping some extra lights in if the RCD no longer works or the ring has no end to ends or the Zs is massive.
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You make it sound as though domestic electrics are more than a circuit that even a 5 year old could draw. Domestic electrics, scaremongering, its just comedy.
Are the connections tight, earths sleeved all round, no exposed cable sticking out of any terminations, no cables pulled tight over a fitting, rubbers installed into the backboxes where cables enter them.
A basic multimeter will check continuity between points, easy to run round afterwards and check everything before you make it live.
Its all just basic common sense, you get taught circuits with complexity 100* that of a domestic dwelling in first year A-level
A basic multimeter will check continuity between points, easy to run round afterwards and check everything before you make it live.
Its all just basic common sense, you get taught circuits with complexity 100* that of a domestic dwelling in first year A-level
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Are the connections tight, earths sleeved all round, no exposed cable sticking out of any terminations, no cables pulled tight over a fitting, rubbers installed into the backboxes where cables enter them.
A basic multimeter will check continuity between points, easy to run round afterwards and check everything before you make it live.
Its all just basic common sense, you get taught circuits with complexity 100* that of a domestic dwelling in first year A-level
I agree that domestic electrics are far from hard, but you are making it out like any monkey can do it safely. They can't, they make mistakes, more often then a TRAINED electrician, so they COULD be electrocuted at the end of the day.....and that isn't good is it?
Plus, the fact that DIY'ers are asking on the OCUK forums about this is a bit silly if you ask me (Yes, it's Home & Garden, but you don't need a qualification to use a strimmer, you do to work with electricity safely), go to the electricians forum where qualified electricians can give a correct and safe answer to any questions you may have (Google Electricians Forum)
I've been passed the number of a sparky its a guy who used to do a lot of work at my place of work and I believe he only charges £15 an hour so not worth me trying it, thanks for the advice though guys a lot of good info
I put a light fitting up today and led cob bulbs and that was enough for me!
I put a light fitting up today and led cob bulbs and that was enough for me!
