Do i really want to buy a Supra?

[helpimcrap]

Will Gill was giving his respect when he simply accelerated whilst in a straight line and ended up spinning through 180 degrees

They take more skill to drive properly than most of us here posess. There is a reason many insurers ask for prior experience in performance cars first.

i rode a 600cc motorbike after riding a 125. im still alive. im pretty sure a lot of others who drove/rode performance machines are here too if they remember one thing.... the car only goes as quick as the right foot.

 

[Gaijin]

Will Gill was giving his respect when he simply accelerated whilst in a straight line and ended up spinning through 180 degrees

They take more skill to drive properly than most of us here posess. There is a reason many insurers ask for prior experience in performance cars first.

There are plenty of factors involved that we dont know about.

How was the car set up? Tuned? Suspension setup? Driving conditions? Weather? Did he try to drive it like a scoob? (Sorry Will - that one is for club VTEC )

Saying that someone shouldnt change to one down to one mans experience with a supra, is very narrow minded do you not think?

/EDIT Oops forgot your own experience there - whoops.

My point remains, not everyone is going to go backward through a hedge given a bit of power and RWD. Respect, being sensible and responsibility are key.

 

[[TW]Fox]

I think I could handle a Supra.

You probably could - you've got several years in an MR2 Turbo behind you, and before that, you had a short spell in an MR2 N/A. You've learnt how these cars react, where the limits are and what happens if you overstep.

In a Fiesta, you'd not have done this. It's about as different a driving experience as you could possibly get from a Supra. Most of the basics of car control you'll have learnt in a Fiesta won't apply in a twin turbocharged Supra.

But I guess I am wasting my time, some people here think that all cars are the same and power/car layout has nothing to do with the likleyhood of having any problems.

I only with these people one day work in insurance, so that we may all insure Supras for the price of Fiestas because hey - the accelerator is not an on off switch, thats all there is too it, and it's no different to a Fiesta

I'm not saying he should avoid anything with a bit of power and some RWD - infact, now is probably the right time for him to make a move into RWD - just avoid something with a hell of a LOT of power and RWD. Especially something as particular as a Supra which has not one but two turbos which like to spin up at inopportune moments when the autobox kicks down.

 

[L0rdMike]

Big Turbo RWD cars need a lot of respect, all it takes is a dab of the throttle in the wrong place and it can all go wrong very quick.

In my Fiesta and MK1 MR2 you could go round bends with your foot slammed to the floor as they never really had enough power to lose traction, but if I tried that now Id be going backwards in to something.

I actually read 2 or 3 MR driving guides before getting my MR2's.

 

[Gaijin]

You probably could - you've got several years in an MR2 Turbo behind you, and before that, you had a short spell in an MR2 N/A. You've learnt how these cars react, where the limits are and what happens if you overstep.

How else are you supposed to learn? People are different and not everyone needs a step up car if they have their head screwed on.

In a Fiesta, you'd not have done this. It's about as different a driving experience as you could possibly get from a Supra. Most of the basics of car control you'll have learnt in a Fiesta won't apply in a twin turbocharged Supra.

Of course not but how do you get past the basics?

But I guess I am wasting my time, some people here think that all cars are the same and power/car layout has nothing to do with the likleyhood of having any problems.

A sweeping generalisation if I ever saw one, most people in this Motors forum, will at least have some theoretical knowledge of the implications of an MR/FR drivetrain. Even one of my friends who doesnt drive knows you cant drive an Integra like you drive an MR2 Turbo. And thats just through playing Forza.

the accelerator is not an on off switch, thats all there is too it, and it's no different to a Fiesta

I dont think you give some people on here enough credit mate

You definately have a point on this issue Fox, but I think you are far too hardline and narrow minded here

 

[mattx2]

Hi guys, i've suddenly fallen in love with the 93 onwards supra, mark iv.

I've always liked them but sort of grew out of it, however after watching a few videos on the net, and going to a few shows at Santa Pod, and stupidly after watching the video of the guy making the HKS supra noise with his noise.

So i've been browsing the pistonheads forum and autotrader i've seen a few that i feel are within budget and have everything i need. It's a bit of a step-up though from my little fiesta si!

I really need to find a garage or somewhere that i can test drive first though so i can cement my decision.

So have any of you guys had any previous experiance of them, be it n/a, single or twin turbo?

Any pics?

my 93 n/a

ok, so I might be a little biased, but GET ONE!!!!

I love mine bought it as a little graduation present for myself when I finished uni , was a slight step up from a 306 diesel but I'm still in one piece. The supra is actually very easy to drive in the dry you really have to be giving it some to provoke some bad behaviour from it. In the wet you just need to remember not to floor it mid bend. It’s not the ditch seeking missile some would have you believe.

After two years i’m looking to replace it but I’m really struggling to think of something I’d like more for under 15k (apart from a supra TT)

 

[Hunders]

As long as you take it easy and slowly learn the capabilities and habits of a big power RWD car then I say go for it! I went from a Saxo VTR with 98bhp to an MR2 Turbo with ~255bhp and I am coping fine with all that extra power and slowly learning how to drive one. You just have to show a lot more respect to the car when driving. I have had the rear end fish-tailing once or twice but I was ready to react to what was happening.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

which supra are you getting? if its the 3.0 non turbo then thats quite slow for what it is. the turbo version is the one you want.

idealy it would be best to get a car thats 4wd and has good power. the scooby mk1's can be had dirt cheapo these days.

 

[NathanE]

I upgraded from a Clio 1.2 to an Elise... not spun it and killed myself yet...

Seriously, you'd have to be one hell of a **** to buy a much faster car and then rag the hell out of it like you would with the previous car from day one. It takes months to build up handling "trust" in a new car for most people.

No offence to Will Gill but he must have been driving too fast for the conditions or his knowledge of the road if he really did spin it in a straight line.

 

[Stonedofmoo]

That's not as much as a jump as a 90bhp FWD shopping trolley to a 320bhp MINIMUM RWD sports car that realistically is close to Ferrari performance.

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

My 94 Twin Turbo was one of the best cars Ive ever owned, Sold in the end due to the british road salt getting the best of if. Anything you want to know just ask. I wouldnt go for the N/A course after a week you'll be wishing your gone TT, excellent perforamce apart from 40mph turbo lag on the autos which was terrible.

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[DreXeL]

Great cars Supras, but not really the kind of thing to get as an upgrade from a Fiesta.

Well, the TT anyway, the N/A is actually not that fast atall, and is a good 'my first Supra'. The N/A sounds better than the TT too

TBH I actually found the Supra really quite easy to drive, it is a heavy car but it hides it's weight quite well. I found it's very progressive and gives you loads of warning before letting the arse go, and when it does go it's very controllable.

If I'm honest it felt much more of a 'GT' compared to my RX7, which was pure sports car.

Anyway I digress, like I said, the TT isn't the ideal upgrade from a Fiesta, if you really must get a Supra get an N/A.

 

[ramirez]

why not get an auto Soarer TT instead, pretty much same car but a lot cheaper and a bit more usable day to day.

280 bhp for £1500 = win!

 

[ZXSpectrum]

I will be looking to get a TT MKIV Supra in spring of next year. I will be upgrading from my Stage one S14a and have previously owned a 300bhp S13. The very first upgrade on the Supra will be Racelogic Traction Control. I have it on my S14a and its a godsend especially with a car that has close to 330bhp... Depends how he drives really... My mates cousin took his Supra out for a test drive with a view to buy and had rolled it within 20mins... Not his fault just on a dual carriageway in the wet, put his foot down as he overtook a couple of cars (He was not doing any more that 50/60) The auto box kicked down, spun up the rear wheels and he spun hit a kerb and tolled it into some bushes...

Be carefull... I have driven decently powerfull rwd cars for 5 years now and am still wary...

 

[DreXeL]

Traction Control? You big girl, I never felt the need for it when I had the RX7 with it's 363bhp.

Right foot = all the traction control you need

 

[Booner!]

I Drove this 3.0ltr Twin Turbo for a weekend (my cousins). ITS RAPID

Decatted
Apexi SAFC2
Boost Gauge
Lowered 45mm
5ZIGEN Border 304 MAX exhaust
Jearo Ruff 18" Alloys 275/35/18's
Infinity Components
Running 1.2Bar Boost
Greddy FCD
Bomex Skirts and Veilside Spatz

I personally love supras

 

[ZXSpectrum]

Traction Control? You big girl, I never felt the need for it when I had the RX7 with it's 363bhp.

Right foot = all the traction control you need

I would rather have it and not need it that not have it and need it... Too many stories and experiences of 200sx's mashed up because of the rear...

Hey Booner... Thats up for sale at the moment isnt it? If i could sell my S14a i would be interested in that now. Just got stuff to sort on it...

 

[s0ck]

Loving the wheels on that supra... really need to do something with the headlamps though.