Do ID cards really exist?

Nimzicki · 13 Jun 2006 at 22:56

lol, fair enough, it did seem like you didn't know what the issue with being able to read a jelly baby was

Indy500 · 13 Jun 2006 at 22:58

Nimzicki said:
lol, fair enough, it did seem like you didn't know what the issue with being able to read a jelly baby was

I figured people would infer that something is wrong if it reads a jelly baby imprint as valid...nevermind.

Hudzy · 13 Jun 2006 at 23:44

The whole jelly baby thing... wouldn't that not work since the print would be backward?

Indy500 · 13 Jun 2006 at 23:46

Hudzy said:
The whole jelly baby thing... wouldn't that not work since the print would be backward?

Fingerprints only have 1 side, they cant be "backwards"...other side is your nail.

Hudzy · 13 Jun 2006 at 23:51

I meant left would be right. So if your fingerprint looked like this... ///\

and you imprinted that onto a jelly baby, and then used that on a scanner, it would read... /\\\

EDIT: I don't even know why I'm discussing fingerprints and jelly babies. Must be late.

Indy500 · 13 Jun 2006 at 23:53

Depends how you held it against the scanner.

Aod · 14 Jun 2006 at 00:15

i think what be means is that the Print would be a 'negative'

Lands would be grooves and grooves would be lands.

i've been wondering about this aswell.
this issue was Also raised in the Third Artemis Fowl book.

it seems that many Optical based fingerprint scanning devices will classify a Print and its 'negative' to be the same (as seen on CSI, not strictly factual, but a precedent nontheless)

Indy500 · 14 Jun 2006 at 00:19

Hmm...reinforces my point about biometrics being flawed then.

bigred · 14 Jun 2006 at 02:48

KaHn said:
Just got my biometric passport today, I think its pretty cool

KaHn

I recently paid £51 for a new passport too, but are you sure these ones are actually biometric? It has some kind of fancy RFID chip inside, embedded into the photo page, but it doesn't have my fingerprints/iris scan/DNA/etc on it?

Alex

alexakasloth · 14 Jun 2006 at 07:35

Yes, because so many people will go out with jelly babies to get your fingerprint? :confused:

How unrealistic is that point!

Matblack · 14 Jun 2006 at 07:37

Saberu said:
I think connexions cards are finished now. Although another student card is Student Union cards but these are only for university students.

Government has pulled the plug, last points will be issued in August and the points will be redeamable until next Feb . Bloody **** up!

http://www.connexionscard.com/x/c/cxc.jsp?P1=ARTD&P5=N00000012691

MB

alexakasloth · 14 Jun 2006 at 07:39

Matblack said:
Government has pulled the plug, last points will be issued in August and the points will be redeamable until next Feb . Bloody **** up!

http://www.connexionscard.com/x/c/cxc.jsp?P1=ARTD&P5=N00000012691

MB

They were flawed I think in the way they are issued, you just go there, say your name and they take a picture which goes on the card. Now say I had a brother who's a year younger. I could tell him where to go and he'll get his picture taken and put on the card, therefore on the card he'll be a year older.

dirtydog · 14 Jun 2006 at 08:11

$loth said:
Yes, because so many people will go out with jelly babies to get your fingerprint? How unrealistic is that point!

It wouldn't have to be jelly babies, that was just an example. I'm sure fraudsters (or terrorists, whoever) could think of better ways to 'capture' people's fingerprints without them knowing.

Chunky · 14 Jun 2006 at 11:26

my family have had id cards for years, now makes travelling round europe soo much easier.