Do Microsoft want Windows Phone to fail?
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Errrrrm
Settings > (Scroll Left) applications > phone > Show my caller ID to: everyone/no one/my contacts
I want it to announce it over the headset using text to speech...
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If microsoft doesn't offer an upgrade path from my 2nd gen HTC Radar, I'll be switching back to Android. I decided to make the switch to show them some support.
No way will I be sticking around for a platform which has very little good content in the marketplace and by a company which has burnt their early adaptors.
No way will I be sticking around for a platform which has very little good content in the marketplace and by a company which has burnt their early adaptors.
Woops sorry.
Taken from http://www.winsupersite.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/wininfo-short-takes-april-20-2012-142888
Probably true then. Although if that's the case I don't understand where Nokia is going with lower-spec devices like the Lumia 610.
At any rate my trust in the platform has gone to utter zero. So my investment (Apps & Microsoft/Nokia services) will go to zero.
This makes little sense to me, why is the updating process for Windows different to how you feel towards Droid?...how many phones did Google make available for ICS to people with high end mobiles?.or do you think its okay to leave it 100% in the vendors hand wether they opt to do it or not, why would you not just get a newer Win8 running phone? People didnt seem to have the same grudges HAVING to buy the Nexus so they could use ICS. People didnt seem to scream foul when the 3G/3GS and even the 4G iPhones got left behind.
3rd world countries/emerging markets. Replace their super cheap symbian handsets.
if no upgrade its not a killer, most people get new phones with contracts. again the only people who are going to care is geeks and we make up a small market.
Its not surprising as its a totally different OS. its not a simple upgrade.
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my sgs got official updates from samsung from 3 different os releases.
eclair to froyo to gingerbread aswell as a official ics value pack (adding ics features to gingerbread) and finally ICS was released by the XDA community.
My 2nd gen HTC radar released just before XMAS, which ive had for only a few months is looking like its not going to get one upgrade.
the 3gs has had 3 ios updates released for it iirc?
Ios may have had 3 updates but they where not complete iOS updates, you got part of what Apple wanted to give you even though it was obvious previous gens could run the full updates.
Samsung have their own bile filled Droid versions which no body really liked, are you getting the Jelly Bean update?, is that confirmed?, and you got the Samsung version of ICS, not the Googles one, that annoys me HEAVILY in the Droid framework of things. I do NOT care for what you can get via rooting etc, to me if you HAVE to do that then something is wrong out of the box.
Nothing has been confirmed by MS about the updates to Win8/ Apollo and their current devices, youre scrapping them over rumours.
Samsung have their own bile filled Droid versions which no body really liked, are you getting the Jelly Bean update?, is that confirmed?, and you got the Samsung version of ICS, not the Googles one, that annoys me HEAVILY in the Droid framework of things. I do NOT care for what you can get via rooting etc, to me if you HAVE to do that then something is wrong out of the box.
Nothing has been confirmed by MS about the updates to Win8/ Apollo and their current devices, youre scrapping them over rumours.
Sorry but your not an early adopter if you have a HTC radar.
Personally I couldnt give a monkeys if they upgrade 1st and 2nd gen phones as early adopters will be due an upgrade by the time the new Windows Phone 8's are out as contracts generally run 2 years.
The latest I hear is 1st and 2nd gen handsets will be updated with a subset of Apollo features.
I expect the truth behind all of this is that Windows Phone 8 will be a new platform that's backwards compatible (with apps) from Windows Phone 7. Windows RT will form the base of this new platform, and the system requirements will be such that Windows Phone 7 handsets won't be able to run the new software.
However, I doubt that spells the end of updates for Windows Phone 7 users. The Tango update hints at a future in the sub-£200 price bracket for the platform. It's maybe not what people were hoping for, expecting an upgrade to the latest, greatest version of Windows Phone, but at least the platform should continue to be updated for another year or two.
Obviously this is all just guesswork, but there's not much else to go on right now. I think the above is pretty close to the money, and personally I'm not too bothered by it. I owned both an iPhone 3G and the 1st generation iPad, both of which are pretty clear examples of what happens when you try and shoehorn an OS update on to a device that cannot handle it. I'd rather see them fork Windows Phone in to a new high-end version and the old, low-end version, than be left with a device that cannot manage it's basic functions without grinding to a halt every two minutes.
However, I doubt that spells the end of updates for Windows Phone 7 users. The Tango update hints at a future in the sub-£200 price bracket for the platform. It's maybe not what people were hoping for, expecting an upgrade to the latest, greatest version of Windows Phone, but at least the platform should continue to be updated for another year or two.
Obviously this is all just guesswork, but there's not much else to go on right now. I think the above is pretty close to the money, and personally I'm not too bothered by it. I owned both an iPhone 3G and the 1st generation iPad, both of which are pretty clear examples of what happens when you try and shoehorn an OS update on to a device that cannot handle it. I'd rather see them fork Windows Phone in to a new high-end version and the old, low-end version, than be left with a device that cannot manage it's basic functions without grinding to a halt every two minutes.
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The most well-written article on the issues Nokia currently face.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/apr/23/monday-note-nokia?mobile-redirect=false
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/apr/23/monday-note-nokia?mobile-redirect=false
And another detailing exactly why going Android would have been worse:
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com...7717_1_android-appcelerator-ios#ixzz1swSXQcdI
You only need to look at HTC who were last years Android darling and are now in trouble. Look at Sony as well. They're not in a good position.
Google's acquisition of Motorola only clouds the waters too; where will Samsung be in a years time if the new Nexus is 'THE' android phone.
Nokia have at least now got an identity. They have a product line that is out, different, making profit per handset, they have a partner who's heavily supporting them (would Google have given them billions to get them through all this and pay for adverts?), and end users are responding with positive reviews.
So?
Nokia don't have the luxury of time now. Quite literally the entire company (in its present form) is on the line unless they start making a decent profit. The combination of losing money + finite amount of money in the bank.
They also make a very good acquisition target. For example Apple have $50billion in the bank (after their recent dividends etc.) compared to Nokia being WORTH about $13.5billion. They could quite easily do a hostile takeover of Nokia as patents, NAVTEQ & R&D would be very beneficial. Kill the rest.
This weirdly seems to indicate sales of the Lumia 900 haven't actually been good. Although that seems totally the opposite of what Nokia & AT&T have been saying.
Nokia don't have the luxury of time now. Quite literally the entire company (in its present form) is on the line unless they start making a decent profit. The combination of losing money + finite amount of money in the bank.
They also make a very good acquisition target. For example Apple have $50billion in the bank (after their recent dividends etc.) compared to Nokia being WORTH about $13.5billion. They could quite easily do a hostile takeover of Nokia as patents, NAVTEQ & R&D would be very beneficial. Kill the rest.
This weirdly seems to indicate sales of the Lumia 900 haven't actually been good. Although that seems totally the opposite of what Nokia & AT&T have been saying.
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That article reads like it was written by a 10 year old...
"The smartphone market is not like automobile shopping where a $20,000 KIA provides basic transportation as well as a $100,000 Mercedes Benz. There is not a huge difference in pricing between products from Nokia Corporation, Samsung, Apple and Research-in-Motion. But there is a major difference in the performances of smartphones from Apple, Samsung, Research-in-Motion and Nokia Corporation."
Ah yes it was horribly written but they quoted WSJ - which I thought was behind a paywall...
So yeah seems like they couldn't even quote right. Although lowering any prices is bad. I think Elop himself stated that Lumia was doing horrendously in Europe and the UK especially.
The Lumia 900 will be going right up against the Samsung Galaxy S III in Europe. When what Nokia really should be bringing to the table is a multi-core Apollo PureView monster. Which if the leak/rumours are true will be going right up against a redesigned iPhone.
So yeah seems like they couldn't even quote right. Although lowering any prices is bad. I think Elop himself stated that Lumia was doing horrendously in Europe and the UK especially.
The Lumia 900 will be going right up against the Samsung Galaxy S III in Europe. When what Nokia really should be bringing to the table is a multi-core Apollo PureView monster. Which if the leak/rumours are true will be going right up against a redesigned iPhone.