Do you believe?

Glaucus said:
Its inconceivable that there isn't life out there, just the distance and time scales are unbelievably large.

As for religion they'll find away to incorporate it so nothing will change. The extremists will call it a devils creation and the more moderates will praise it as other life forms created by God.
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I tend to agree with this. According to wiki the Milky Way is between 100,000 and 180,000 light years across and is estimated to contain 100–400 billion stars with at least 100 billion planets! This is just one of numerous galaxies. But it is the sheer scale which is so difficult for me to get my head around. Just think, there are parts of our small planet which are relatively unexplored and, correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it last year that a new tribe of people was discovered in the Amazon!

There has to be life out there!

As for the consequences if we meet them, I think it would depend upon whose technology was superior. When you see the way human race behaves at the minute I'd fear for any life we found on another world. Similarly, I'd fear for us if they were like us!

Maybe we'll find out one day!!!
 
Ideal conditions (Goldilocks zone, magnetic field, Moon, plate tectonics, Jupiter taking most debris hits etc.) and 4.5b of planetary history (1/3 of the age of the Universe) lead to only 1 form of life (the common ancestor) which in turn lead, through evolutio,n to only 1 species(or family) capable of creating technology.

Factor in the huge distances and the conclusion is we are probably all alone. Unless of course life's origin was not on this planet and the common ancestor was actually a seed which would make things quite interesting. :)
 
Efour said:
I believe Jesus/god created life only in Israel and 6000 years ago.
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LateX'Dog said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Answer this quite nicely.

According to this line of reasoning, the Earth should have already been visited by extraterrestrial aliens.
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And here is a great video explaining the fermi paradox and also pretty much answers this thread.
 
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Islam teaches us that there may be life out there other than ours. The quran even states that Allah is the lord of all universes. Plural.

I think we are probably not alone.
 
skaif said:
Islam teaches us that there may be life out there other than ours. The quran even states that Allah is the lord of all universes. Plural.

I think we are probably not alone.
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Why should anyone believe in what islam says? Just another fairytale with no evidence to back it up.
 
I think it's inevitable, given enough time that life will evolve elsewhere in space, no doubt in my mind.

I've been an astronomer since 12 years old, the sheer size of the universe is just amazing and to think we are the only intelligent life forms is quite scary.

"Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not. In either case the idea is quite staggering." Arthur C Clarke
 
Sliver said:
Why? What's the empirical evidence for this assertion?
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He lets us discover and believe what he wants us to. It's all part of a divine plan. Once you get on board life is much better.

The leader is good the leader is great, I surrender my will as of this date.
 
The known universe is inconceivable in its size, life will be widespread and in so many different and unimaginable forms. We'll never get to see it or meet it as the distances are too big to overcome.

Just think about what our little planet was inhabited by 65 million years ago.
 
It's funny the number of people who believe God *cannot* exist who also believe aliens *must* exist.

And then start talking about proof...
 
FoxEye said:
It's funny the number of people who believe God *cannot* exist who also believe aliens *must* exist.

And then start talking about proof...
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well we have pretty solid empirical proof for the universe being massive, and that the probability of aliens existing as a factor of how massive the universe is is therefore all but practically certain (although not precluding the minuscule possibility that there aren't)

whereas there is no empirical proof that the universe had a sentient creator, and definitely no proof at all that said sentient creator notices or cares what we do, despite the teachings of the various world religions.
 
Estimated 100 billion stars in our galaxy , estimated 100+billion galaxies

Starts to think...

Head explodes
 
You're all saying statistacly it's impossible for there not to be, but using that logic you're also saying statistically it is possible for there not to be. Just saying. ;)
 
adolf hamster said:
whereas there is no empirical proof that the universe had a sentient creator, and definitely no proof at all that said sentient creator notices or cares what we do, despite the teachings of the various world religions.
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I'd agree with the last bit - the first is somewhat more complicated. There is as much supportive evidence that one day our own level of technology will reach a point where we could simulate a fully immersive sub-universe as there is for the existence of life elsewhere in the universe which logically would raise the question of our own existence.
 
Efour said:
He lets us discover and believe what he wants us to. It's all part of a divine plan. Once you get on board life is much better.

The leader is good the leader is great, I surrender my will as of this date.
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Oh please. Stop trolling. I asked for evidence for your claim not a bunch of BS. If you can't back up what you say with verifiable empirical evidence then you shouldn't be saying it. Religion is poison and false and you know it.
 
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