Do you run your pump at 100%? Does it shorten it's lifespan?

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As the title suggests, just wondering when I get my Arctic Freezer III Pro 360 AIO, what I should set the pump to? Or am I worrying for no reason?
When they state it'll last X years with X warranty, is that based on running full whack in testing?
I'm hoping it's simply a case of setting it to whatever suits my hardware on a noise vs temps ratio? Do you actually hear the pump or is it just going to be fan noise I hear?
Am I better off having the pump running higher % than the fans or vice versa before the pwm ramps up on either?
 
Are people overthinking AIOs now? Can you even adjust the speed of the pumps? Just plug it in and set some curves for your fans.
 
Of course you can, they're just PWM fans at the end of the day.

I run my ACIII 240mm pump at 25-30% until temps get above 60C as anything over that I can hear it.
 
I have an AIO in an ITX case and I run it at 85% constantly. It’s not as noisy and the performance is essentially the same. So long as you set it at a constant speed I’m sure you can set it to whatever you want. Some pumps are considerably noisier at 100%.
 
Shaolin Chicken said:
Jay2Cents did a video and he tested different pump speeds and showed the cooling for each pump speed.
Around 80% ended up being the best.
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If poss I link speed to water temp and mostly run at ~50% and ramp to ~80%. 100% may be pushing water too fast to be efficient and may unnecessarily create more noise but you'd notice I'm sure.

Cheaper AIOs are often more of a plug and go without much control apart from maybe the fans. For a one stop control interface I use Argus Monitor myself.
 
bimbleuk said:
If poss I link speed to water temp and mostly run at ~50% and ramp to ~80%. 100% may be pushing water too fast to be efficient and may unnecessarily create more noise but you'd notice I'm sure.

Cheaper AIOs are often more of a plug and go without much control apart from maybe the fans. For a one stop control interface I use Argus Monitor myself.
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Sounds good, I really need to fine tune mine, bookmarked Argus Monitor.
 
I read it should be fine as long as there is not too much change in a short span of time. Like jumping from 30% to 80% then back to 30 when it cools. Keep it at near consistent speeds for longevity. (I don't have concrete proof of this, but it logically makes some sense)

I run mine around 90% base line which curves toward 100 at very high temps. (though I might lower them after reading @Shaolin Chicken 's comment.)
 
psycho-cookie said:
I read it should be fine as long as there is not too much change in a short span of time. Like jumping from 30% to 80% then back to 30 when it cools. Keep it at near consistent speeds for longevity. (I don't have concrete proof of this, but it logically makes some sense)

I run mine around 90% base line which curves toward 100 at very high temps. (though I might lower them after reading @Shaolin Chicken 's comment.)
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I just quickly skimmed through some more videos and the results seem to vary depending on what AIO is used, so it's probably best to do your own testing to find out what works best with regards to temperatures and noise, that is what I am going to do, as my pump emits a high pitched hum when it is on 100%.
 
May also depend on your motherboard
And what header you connect
It to
Mine has 2 x pump headers those are fixed at 100%
So if I want pump control
I have to plug into a different header

Pump design may also have an effect on durability
If ran at high or full %
If there's a physical spindle on the impeller
Then over time it can become worn
Causing a nasty rattling sound
If there's no impeller spindle just magnetic levitation
Then full speed shouldn't shorten lifetime due to physical wear
The only difference will be your putting more power through
The pcb which might make electronic parts last a little less time

There's also resonance/vibration to consider
Some pumps at certain rpm may do this
But at higher or lower rpm it stops
Bit similar to a car where the steering wheel may do it at a certain speed
But not above or below that speed
So you might have to adjust rpm because of that

Most of that's worst case scenario probably won't happen
To most people
But still a possibility

End of the day I would just set it to 80--85% range
And see if there's any noise issues
Then adjust from there if required
Don't really see the need for altering pump speed by temperature
Like fans
 
First of all, sorry for late replies, secondly Wow! The feedback I've come back to is extremely helpful, thank you all so much :)

JonRGV250 said:
Fwiw I run it at 100%
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Awesome, is that the Arctic Freezer III Pro 360mm like I'm going for? How long have you had it for? Ever had any issues with the VRM cooler playing up like some have?
LePhuronn said:
Are people overthinking AIOs now? Can you even adjust the speed of the pumps? Just plug it in and set some curves for your fans.
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I've never had one and wondered if the rated lifespan/warranty was based on an X pump speed vs lifespan?
Rob_B said:
Yup, they're just wet PWM fans* :D


*they have fins and go round and round
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:cry: Love this! :cry:
rare said:
I have an AIO in an ITX case and I run it at 85% constantly. It’s not as noisy and the performance is essentially the same. So long as you set it at a constant speed I’m sure you can set it to whatever you want. Some pumps are considerably noisier at 100%.
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This was what I was hoping to do, run it aroudn 80% and get what I wanted out of it, without sacrafising any gains.
Shaolin Chicken said:
Jay2Cents did a video and he tested different pump speeds and showed the cooling for each pump speed.
Around 80% ended up being the best.
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This was what I was hoping to do, run it around 80% and get what I wanted out of it, without sacrafising any gains.
bimbleuk said:
If poss I link speed to water temp and mostly run at ~50% and ramp to ~80%. 100% may be pushing water too fast to be efficient and may unnecessarily create more noise but you'd notice I'm sure.

Cheaper AIOs are often more of a plug and go without much control apart from maybe the fans. For a one stop control interface I use Argus Monitor myself.
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Nice, this can link them altogether as 1 cable, or with 3 seperate headers for pump, fans, vrm fan, so I'll be using my cpu/pump/spare fan header to do that.
clone said:
I've ran my artic freezer 3 at full speed scince day one, no problem.
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Excellent! How long have you had it now, sorry if I asked before :cry:
Glanza said:
Run mine at 50% then it ramps up with temp, more so I don't hear the pump over my fans.
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I like the idea of that.
psycho-cookie said:
I read it should be fine as long as there is not too much change in a short span of time. Like jumping from 30% to 80% then back to 30 when it cools. Keep it at near consistent speeds for longevity. (I don't have concrete proof of this, but it logically makes some sense)

I run mine around 90% base line which curves toward 100 at very high temps. (though I might lower them after reading @Shaolin Chicken 's comment.)
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That makes sense, thanks for that.
Shaolin Chicken said:
I just quickly skimmed through some more videos and the results seem to vary depending on what AIO is used, so it's probably best to do your own testing to find out what works best with regards to temperatures and noise, that is what I am going to do, as my pump emits a high pitched hum when it is on 100%.
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Yeah, I thought I'd ask just in case, as a lot of people see to have the AFIIIP360 that I'm 99.9% sure I'm going for :)
Mcnumpty2323 said:
May also depend on your motherboard
And what header you connect
It to
Mine has 2 x pump headers those are fixed at 100%
So if I want pump control
I have to plug into a different header

Pump design may also have an effect on durability
If ran at high or full %
If there's a physical spindle on the impeller
Then over time it can become worn
Causing a nasty rattling sound
If there's no impeller spindle just magnetic levitation
Then full speed shouldn't shorten lifetime due to physical wear
The only difference will be your putting more power through
The pcb which might make electronic parts last a little less time

There's also resonance/vibration to consider
Some pumps at certain rpm may do this
But at higher or lower rpm it stops
Bit similar to a car where the steering wheel may do it at a certain speed
But not above or below that speed
So you might have to adjust rpm because of that

Most of that's worst case scenario probably won't happen
To most people
But still a possibility

End of the day I would just set it to 80--85% range
And see if there's any noise issues
Then adjust from there if required
Don't really see the need for altering pump speed by temperature
Like fans
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2 Pump headers!?:eek: Bit posh isn't it :cry:
I did wonder about things like the impeller etc...
Yeah, I can see there will be a lot of tweaking to get this bang on, but I'm all for the fun and final satisfaction of dialing it in correct after many hours of swearing :cry:
Thanks again for your insights mate!
 
Yeah this is very posh motherboard indeed :cry:
Asus crosshair viii extreme
8 fan headers plus can add 6 more
With the included hub
That comes with it
All singing and dancing it is
Was around £900--1000 new luckily
I didn't pay any where near that
for it Though :)
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Yeah this is very posh motherboard indeed :cry:
Asus crosshair viii extreme
8 fan headers plus can add 6 more
With the included hub
That comes with it
All singing and dancing it is
Was around £900--1000 new luckily
I didn't pay any where near that
for it Though :)
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Awesome! That sounds mental!:eek:
An orgy of fan headers :cry::D
Christ, that's a lot of money for a motherboard, imagine in the future, that kind of OTT board will be like 5 grand :cry:
 
deviation said:
Awesome! That sounds mental!:eek:
An orgy of fan headers :cry::D
Christ, that's a lot of money for a motherboard, imagine in the future, that kind of OTT board will be like 5 grand :cry:
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Yeah it's got usb4, 2.5 and 10gb ethernet
5 x m2 and so on
No real reason for me to upgrade to am5

Once you've been a member here for 6 months
And made 1,000 posts
You get access to members market
And if you're lucky sometimes you can get
A great bargain
I did on this motherboard I would never have
Payed the price it was new
Person sold it to me was very generous with
The price in my opinion :)

Members market is the best thing
In the forums in my opinion
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Yeah it's got usb4, 2.5 and 10gb ethernet
5 x m2 and so on
No real reason for me to upgrade to am5

Once you've been a member here for 6 months
And made 1,000 posts
You get access to members market
And if you're lucky sometimes you can get
A great bargain
I did on this motherboard I would never have
Payed the price it was new
Person sold it to me was very generous with
The price in my opinion :)

Members market is the best thing
In the forums in my opinion
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:cry: FIVE M.2's hahaha that's madness!

Ah, nice, that sounds like a good future bonus for the forum :)
Yeah, you did very well there by the sound of it mate ;)

Nahhh surely it's people arguing about politics and thinking ranting on a forum will change the laws/world :cry: - I did notice there is a lot of those threads/people on here :cry: I will definitely be steering clear from that section of the forum :cry:
 
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