Do you understand this art

Those three in the OP look like they've been painted by somebody who can't paint (or a 4 year old child).
 
Haggisman said:
Would the pieces in the op have sold for anywhere near what they did if they were by a generic artist? Surely if they were truly as amazing as you're making out then yes, but really, I doubt it. I'm not disputing that some of the artist's other work is really good, I've had a look and really like some of his other pieces, but I reckon those in the op wouldn't have anywhere near the "recognition" they have without that artist's name on them.
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No different that a leather bag with Alexander McQueen retails more than one without that name tag.

This is just in a bigger scale.
 
Sliver said:
I have no soul. I'm an atheist infidel. I still appreciate art though. Does this make me a walking contradiction under your philosophy ?
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Fine mister pedantic, rather than soul, the bit of your brain that does stuff to do with stuff...

Even if you are an atheist, it is nice to think that a person is more than flesh, blood and electrical impulses, even if it isn't "scientifically" true.
 
Haggisman said:
Basically. Yes. What does it do/say? What message does it convey? What emotion does it make you feel? Is it interesting to look at? Did it take any skill to do? Is it something "unique" that nobody else could do?

In my opinion: the answer to all of those questions is nothing/no.
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You are entitled to an opinion but, considering your lack of expertise on the matter and the consensus of the experts in the field, I would say your opinion is uninformed and invalid.

Haggisman said:
Would the pieces in the op have sold for anywhere near what they did if they were by a generic artist? Surely if they were truly as amazing as you're making out then yes, but really, I doubt it. I'm not disputing that some of the artist's other work is really good, I've had a look and really like some of his other pieces, but I reckon those in the op wouldn't have anywhere near the "recognition" they have without that artist's name on them.
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Every artist starts out as a generic artist but very few reach world wide recognition. There's only one way for an artist to make a name for themselves - good works of art.
 
Zethor said:
Every artist starts out as a generic artist but very few reach world wide recognition. There's only one way for an artist to make a name for themselves - good works of art.
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As I've already said, I agree. However just because someone has done good works of art, does not automatically mean every work they do is good, or even art (and conversely, just because someone has previously produced nothing but crap art, does not necessarily mean they cannot produce a good piece).

I believe that each piece of art should be judged as an individual piece on it's own merit, not based on what else the artist has done, and I don't believe the pieces in the OP would be considered "good art" or have sold for as much as they did on their own merit without an already established famous artist's name attached to them.

Zethor said:
I would say your opinion is uninformed and invalid.
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There's no such thing as in "invalid" opinion, only one which you don't agree with.
 
There's nothing to get, it doesn't have any meaning or talent behind it. It's just made to sell to some pretentious person like that Damien Hirst crap.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-daughters-drawing-end-Saatchi-gallery.html

Old but still, for me, sums up 'modern art'. Its also not the only time a painting by a child has done well in a modern art competition.

I think the reason is clear, these modern artists can't paint for **** so come up with this pretentious nonsense instead.
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Indeed, it does seem like the modern art movement is just a niche for talentless hipsters and fashionistas that can't paint!! :)

But I concede I am not an art professional and I don't have the same artistic knowledge as some people. But I dont need to know what is making a smell to know something stinks! (In my opinion of course ;) )
 
Sliver said:
lol. I'm pretty sure that being a museum curator does not equate to an opulent bank balance. Museums aren't there to make a profit, they're there to educate and house collections for the enjoyment of the public.
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It may not have been an entirely serious post. ;)

Energize said:
There's nothing to get, it doesn't have any meaning or talent behind it. It's just made to sell to some pretentious person like that Damien Hirst crap.
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At least the Damien Hirst stuff is actually impressive, what grates about him is that he doesn't do it himself, he allegedly comes up with some concept and then pays far more talented individuals to actually execute it, yet he gets all the glory.
 
I don't understand it but I do like it.

If I saw a amateur painting in a similar style I'd probably like it just as much.
 
joelk2 said:
man im in the wrong job.
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Except you don't hear about the artists that carry out work better than this and can't even do this as a full time job. Even though they would love to.

Haggisman said:
Yeah, but the difference between the stuff posted in the OP and pictures like the Mona Lisa, is that the Mona Lisa actually looks like something - it's a very accurate picture of a person created in a time long before cameras, painstakingly created by someone over a long period of time. Something which we take for granted these days when we can pull a phone out of our pocket and take a photo in 5 seconds.

What's really sad is that the people with real talent who actually paint accurate portraits seem to get paid a fraction of what some of these blobs of paint that look like they were made in 10 minutes get sold for.
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^^


Zethor said:
Can you think of an example of what you consider to be "true" art?
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So, art is only physical art? No digital art?
 
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