Do you want to read about a true hero?

Northwind said:
Man dies heroically is now good news?

really the stuff legends are made of...
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Would you throw yourself in front of a grenade to save others?

Edit: Ignoor me. I'll take my bad mood out on some other poor sod.
 
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It really does make me sad every time I hear of another American soldier being killed. I hope it was quick and as painless as possible and I wish his family and friends the very best in their time of grief.

Its good to see stories of Americans following the awesome training they have received rather than the stories of rape and torture. I hope this story and other like it will help other realize that the US military is not full of gung-hoe self serving idiots.

Rest in Peace Michael A. Monsoor.

I am now serving as a member of the base Honor Guard and one of our responsibilities is to bury our fallen heroes both past and present. I have not had to do an Active Duty funeral but I have been told that it is one of the most gut-wrenching duties to have to present the American flag to the next of kin giving the speach we have to give and have the family members burst into tears in front of you.
 
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Mik3 said:
Would you throw yourself in front of a grenade to save others?

Edit: Ignoor me. I'll take my bad mood out on some other poor sod.
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If you class others the guys who taught you everything, the lads who you had a joke with, the mates you got drunk with, the lads that watched your back, then yeah the "others" being in any army is like being brothers you live eat and sleep as a family, 99% need not apply.

Stiff_Cookie said:
It really does make me sad every time I hear of another American soldier being killed. I hope it was quick and as painless as possible and I wish his family and friends the very best in their time of grief.

Its good to see stories of Americans following the awesome training they have received rather than the stories of rape and torture. I hope this story and other like it will help other realize that the US military is not full of gung-hoe self serving idiots.

Rest in Peace Michael A. Monsoor.

I am now serving as a member of the base Honor Guard and one of our responsibilities is to bury our fallen heroes both past and present. I have not had to do an Active Duty funeral but I have been told that it is one of the most gut-wrenching duties to have to present the American flag to the next of kin giving the speach we have to give and have the family members burst into tears in front of you.
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The unlawful killing of Terry Lloyd by US soliders once again puts the whole US army down.
 
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cheets64 said:
If you class others the guys who taught you everything, the lads who you had a joke with, the mates you got drunk with, the lads that watched your back, then yeah the "others" being in any army is like being brothers you live eat and sleep as a family, 99% need not apply.
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I referred to "others" as other people, and not what what you seem to be suggesting I was referring to. My Grandad often told me the brotherhood of friendships forged in WW2. I am not ignorant of it, in fact I wish to learn more about the relationships forged in wartime, it one of my favorite subjects.

Stiff_Cookie, what would your training tell you to do in a similar situation?
 
Mik3 said:
Stiff_Cookie, what would your training tell you to do in a similar situation?
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As a Comm troop I have not recieved much training for combat. I was trained to shout grenade and run and dive away from the grenade. However, I have no idea how I would actually react to a situation like that.

Cheets64,

I dont know anything about the Terry Lloyd incident. Ill do some research before I comment.

EDIT: I had a quick google for Terry Lloyd and I keep getting differing accounts. Some say he was taken away in an ambulance some say he was taken away in a minibus. Some say he was shot by troops while others say it was a helicopter gunship. Also, I dont know how each unti was positioned in relation to each other so its difficult to comment when all I know was he was shot twice, once by the Iraqis and once by the Americans.

My opinion on the incident is that during a firefight troops have to make snap decisions and sometimes they get it wrong. I can say that all US Military members are taught the Laws of Armed Conflict (LOAC), for the USAF its on an annual basis, I dont know about the other services. American troops get into firefights on a daily basis and humans are not perfect and make mistakes. I am always sad to hear when a mistake like that is made though and I do not brush it off.

Also, I would like to add a disclaimer. This is MY OPINION and does NOT reflect the opinion of the US Military at all.
 
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Impresses me to hell when people do that on a couple of seconds notice.

the sheer nerve it must take to weigh up whats happening and throw yourself down like that for the chance that it might save someone else.
 
Velocity219e said:
Impresses me to hell when people do that on a couple of seconds notice.

the sheer nerve it must take to weigh up whats happening and throw yourself down like that for the chance that it might save someone else.
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Its the bond they have, they rely on one and other to stay alive. Some WW2 soldiers say the bond is closer than family.
 
Mr-White said:
surely if he had time to jump on it he had time to chuck it back out ?

MW
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be quiet. Who knows how long the detonator would last, how long the pin had been pulled etc. They vary.

Jumping ontop of something is a lot quicker than getting down in your kit to pick up a grenade and then lob it - especially if it hits you and then rolls away.

He done what he had to do, and it is a hero's tale. You cannot respect someone like that enough tbh.
 
Mr-White said:
surely if he had time to jump on it he had time to chuck it back out ?

MW
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Something hits you and falls on the floor. Which takes longer, dropping on it or stooping, picking it up and throwing it away - making sure you get it far enough away from you and safely enough to not put colleagues at risk?

True hero indeed. RIP.
 
Forget the politics the dude is a Hero.
Respect from me and best wishes to his family.
 
Fraggr said:
Good news for once about the Americans in Iraq. Why can't there be more like him?
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There are, it's just a sad fact that good stories are rarely printed and bad ones are.

There will be noble acts by US forces on a daily basis but that doesn't sell newspapers as much it seems.

RIP to an undoubtedly brave man. The US Navy SEALs, along with other Special Forces, do a fantastic job and undertake missions where it would seem a one way ticket to some.
 
Biohazard said:
be quiet. Who knows how long the detonator would last, how long the pin had been pulled etc. They vary.

Jumping ontop of something is a lot quicker than getting down in your kit to pick up a grenade and then lob it - especially if it hits you and then rolls away.

He done what he had to do, and it is a hero's tale. You cannot respect someone like that enough tbh.
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it was an honest question :(

don't soldiers usually get medals for that kind of heroic act ?

MW
 
Gilly said:
Something hits you and falls on the floor. Which takes longer, dropping on it or stooping, picking it up and throwing it away - making sure you get it far enough away from you and safely enough to not put colleagues at risk?

True hero indeed. RIP.
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Exactly. Arent seals meant to be some of the best trained soldiers in the world? I`m sure he knew more about the likely timings and what actions he could do than anyone on these forums.

IMO the term hero has been used far too often recently, but there is no doubt that this guy is the true definition of the word.
 
ignoring all the crap and bait on this thread....

he's the kind of guy everyone should strive to be in my opinion. selfless without thought. he's a true hero for sure.
 
Here is another story of what I consider to be a Hero. I first read about this in Soldier of Fortune magazine and although he did not give his life for his fellow Marines it is clear that his own life was the last thing on his mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Kasal

In a fire fight in a house in Fallujah, although wounded by seven 7.62 mm AK-47 rounds and hit by more than 40 pieces of hot shrapnel from a grenade while using his body to shield an injured fellow Marine, Kasal refused to quit fighting and is credited with saving the lives of several Marines during the U.S. assault on insurgent strongholds in Fallujah in November 2004.
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