Poll: Doctors strike tomorrow, do you support it?

Junior Doctor's Strike, do you support it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 438 59.4%

  • No

    Votes: 299 40.6%
  • Total voters
    737
Scania said:
Because from the point of view of somebody who's spent an extended period in hospital, it's very apparent when your stuck on your ward over a Saturday and Sunday that the care / facilities available are somewhat different from that you get in a Monday - Friday.

Believe me, I've experienced it and it wasn't nice.


I agree with the governments idea not with how they are implementing it nor with the Junior Doctors resorting to strike action.
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I've been admitted to hospital on a Friday morning and then discharged on a Saturday... on the Friday it was great - registrar was really switched on, consultant came around with a small pack of junior doctors following her etc.. they got me sorted, kept in overnight. At one point on the Friday night I had a question and the nurse didn't know but said it would be OK as tomorrow the consultant would be doing the rounds and I could ask then - then corrected herself and remembered it was Saturday tomorrow.

the Saturday was a cluster**** - nurses arguing over what medication I was to be discharged with, someone from pharmacy phoning the nurses station to get a doctor to confirm as they weren't happy... unfortunately not many doctors around - one junior doctor appeared later. Got discharged but the stuff the consultant wanted to be followed up with never happened - nothing in the post from them, went to see GP and GP had nothing from them. Ended up going private.

while it is pointless having elective or routine operations on a Saturday or Sunday I do think that a 7 day service in other areas would be beneficial - such as in the wards people get sent to after being admitted to A&E. There was quite clearly a decline in service on the Saturday compared to the Friday - on the other hand the government does need to pay for this, they can't just assume it can all just work with the same budget
 
My sister is a junior locum doctor and does a mighty fine job. She mentioned maybe moving to New Zealand at some point, where her degree and training would be fully accepted and she can earn good money and not be crazy overworked, like she is right now... plus, she'd be living in New Zealand. :D
 
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I saw some doctors outside my local hospital, so I ploughed my car straight into them. As they were lying on the ground begging for help, I told them I was going on strike and they'd just have to suffer.

Take that communism!

No but seriously. I don't support this strike action, but I do think we need to look at the way we organise doctors, train them and so forth. If someone has gone through medical school and has huge bills, the state should wipe them out after say 5-10 years service in the NHS. We should also look at how the doctors are structured. It seems odd to me that that anyone below a consultant is a "junior doctor". We surely need better grading than that.
 
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jon86 said:
My sister is a junior locum doctor and does a mighty fine job. She mentioned maybe moving to New Zealand at some point, where her degree and training would be fully accepted and she can earn good money and not be crazy overworked, like she is right now... plus, she'd be living in New Zealand. :D
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might want to show her this:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/23/400000-year-job-new-zealand-three-months-holiday

share in the business, £190,000 a year income and 3 months holiday!

A rural GP in New Zealand is offering a $400,000 (£190,000) annual income to try to attract a medic to share his work burden – but after two years of searching the position remains unfilled.

Dr Alan Kenny co-owns a medical practice in the modest Waikato town of Tokoroa in the North Island – population 13,600

[...]As well as the hefty salary, Kenny is offering the right applicant three months’ annual leave, no night or weekend work – and a half share in the practice, which has 6000 patients on its books. But despite the generous conditions he has had no applications in four months.

“I love my work and I would like to stay but I hit my head against a brick wall trying to attract doctors,” Kenny told the Herald.

“If it’s hard enough to get doctors to work alongside me, it’s going to be a devil of a job to get doctors to replace me.”
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So, all the reports are the Hospitals all ran smoothly and it was fine....so why are we paying you lot anyway since you're obviously not needed :p

(I'm ust kidding of course before anyone goes apoplectic :D)

But I don't think you guys are doing this right, if you are not causing any disruption to the service and everything is running smoothly, what pressure is being put on the Govt to back down?
 
I think they they need to balance creating awareness for their cause with looking like they are concerned with the patients. I support the doctors in this but if they tried to create chaos by striking and therefore get their point across, they will just seem money hungry. As seen by other posters on this thread, many are against the strike solely on the principle that it might cause a bit of disruption, regardless of the unfair contract change.
 
Had my MRI this morning one one in there for 10 minutes before and nobody waiting after.

This new NHS with no Jr Doctors is great, everybody seems to be avoiding the service :D
 
I fully support the Doctors strike. It's shameful what the government are wanting to do, the NHS is run on goodwill and we should be exceptionally proud to have it. I work with Doctors on a daily basis and unfortunately most do not know what their job entails therefore cutting unsocial hours pay and asking them to work longer is ludicrous.

I do feel that their striking won't change things and the government plan will plough ahead which won't be a good outcome at all. We are already understaffed and overworked - what's the point in doing a job for a pittance....like I said the NHS is run on goodwill.

I know this for a fact as I don't want to count the number of times if left late as I can't leave a patient should they deteriorate, we signed up to help people, just a shame the ones dictating what we will and won't do are the ones who have no idea in the slightest. I'd love to see Jeremy Hunt do a few shifts in the hospitals and see if for what it really is.

For the record I'm a Staff Nurse in an Intensive Care, we're always here if and when you need us!
 
jon86 said:
My sister is a junior locum doctor and does a mighty fine job. She mentioned maybe moving to New Zealand at some point, where her degree and training would be fully accepted and she can earn good money and not be crazy overworked, like she is right now... plus, she'd be living in New Zealand. :D
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Another advocate for the charging model for provision of health care!

http://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/services-and-support/health-care-services/visiting-doctor

Amazing how UK doctors claim that things are so much better for them in other countries who's health systems charge at the point of use but hate the thought of the NHS adopting a similar system.
 
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danielanthony said:
Another advocate for the charging model for provision of health care!

http://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/services-and-support/health-care-services/visiting-doctor

Amazing how UK doctors claim that things are so much better for them in other countries who's health systems charge at the point of use but hate the thought of the NHS adopting a similar system.
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It's not black and white. I personally love the fact that the NHS is free and the point of contact, but I'd love it if they brought in a token payment scheme. It's when it goes so far to the US style of healthcare then we're in trouble.

And working abroad might not tick every perfect ethos box and you're leaving the NHS, but you're respected, trained, appreciated and paid properly.
 
Wall to wall Hillsborough coverage has rather taken the wind out of the BMA's (British Militants Association?) sails. I think many people are shocked to see what a shower most of them look on their picket lines, like some down market Student Union on a protest jolly.

I suppose one might actually get to see a consultant should one be unfortunate enough to be hospitalised at the moment ;)
 
Chris Wilson said:
Wall to wall Hillsborough coverage has rather taken the wind out of the BMA's (British Militants Association?) sails. I think many people are shocked to see what a shower most of them look on their picket lines, like some down market Student Union on a protest jolly.

I suppose one might actually get to see a consultant should one be unfortunate enough to be hospitalised at the moment ;)
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It's a picket line, not a fashion show.
 
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