Does a new mobo require a new op system ?

The main point that virtually everyone either forgets, or does not know in the first place is that with 99.9999999999999999999% of ALL windows software, from ANY company, including all office apps, games, Operating systems etc, is that even though you have been to a shop, or gone online and parted with your hard earned for the box and disc,

YOU DO NOT AND NEVER WILL OWN THE SOFTWARE

you only buy a license to use the software under the creators terms and conditions.


If they wish to give different conditions depending upon level of license (ie cost of product), or change those conditions on a whim,then that is entirely their perogative.
 
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stoofa said:
You made your choice.

OEM license - cheaper, restrictive
Retail license - more expensive, much less restrictive

No point getting upset about it - you knew the license restrictions before you installed the OS.
Well I'm assuming you bothered to read them before clicking to say you had?
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are you kidding me ? Do you read all the license restrictions every time you install a piece of software ?
 
widdyst said:
are you kidding me ? Do you read all the license restrictions every time you install a piece of software ?
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Calm down, and read this thread, which was one of the last threads that was posted on this same topic.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18024581

Basically by changing your motherboard, you've technically broken the Licence agreement. But in most cases MS seem happy to provide a new Activation Code as long as they know that the OS is only installed on one machine. Getting Activated, and being correctly Licenced, are two different things, but in your case I'm sure you'll just be happy to be Activated again, as it doesn't seem like you've paid any attention to the Licence so far anyway.

However, if they don't provide you with an Activation code, you don't really have any grounds for complaint, because if you wanted to be able to change your motherboard freely, then you really should have bought the Retail edition, not OEM.
 
widdyst said:
are you kidding me ? Do you read all the license restrictions every time you install a piece of software ?
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Errr - Yes.
Because there is a little button that says "I agree to this license agreement".
Do you know what hassle you can get into by not reading it?
Do you routinely sign contracts without actually reading what it is you are signing?

True story for you.
Here at work somebody downloaded and installed a plug-in for Outlook.
Didn't read the license agreement, simply clicked "OK".
2 minutes later everyone in the company received a join invitiation from him to share details and invitations to download software.
The license agreement he agreed to clearly stated that once installation was complete then it would automatically email everyone in his address book with invitations.

Of course you read a license agreement before you agree to it.
 
div0 said:
Calm down, and read this thread, which was one of the last threads that was posted on this same topic.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18024581

Basically by changing your motherboard, you've technically broken the Licence agreement. But in most cases MS seem happy to provide a new Activation Code as long as they know that the OS is only installed on one machine. Getting Activated, and being correctly Licenced, are two different things, but in your case I'm sure you'll just be happy to be Activated again, as it doesn't seem like you've paid any attention to the Licence so far anyway.

However, if they don't provide you with an Activation code, you don't really have any grounds for complaint, because if you wanted to be able to change your motherboard freely, then you really should have bought the Retail edition, not OEM.
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This isn't quite correct.
Phone up Microsoft activation and tell them 100% truth with regards a motherbaord swap.
They are NOT happy to give you a new activation code.
By 100% truth I mean call up, tell them you've bought an upgrade motherboard and want to reactivate your OS - you will be told that you cannot do this.

Now call up and don't tell them the truth, don't tell them the whole story and yes, the chances are you'll get reactivated.
However you are no more license legal than somebody who has ilegally downloaded pirated software.

If you aren't going to remain within the constrainsts of the license then there is absolutely no point at all in paying for the OS.
Because you are not legal, so just thieve the software in the first place.
 
stoofa said:
Errr - Yes.
Because there is a little button that says "I agree to this license agreement".
Do you know what hassle you can get into by not reading it?
Do you routinely sign contracts without actually reading what it is you are signing?

True story for you.
Here at work somebody downloaded and installed a plug-in for Outlook.
Didn't read the license agreement, simply clicked "OK".
2 minutes later everyone in the company received a join invitiation from him to share details and invitations to download software.
The license agreement he agreed to clearly stated that once installation was complete then it would automatically email everyone in his address book with invitations.

Of course you read a license agreement before you agree to it.
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Oh dear me! Are you telling me that every piece of software you have ever installed you have sat there and read the entire licence agreement before clicking yes ? :rolleyes:

I never sign a contract before reading it NO ! Hardly the same thing is it my friend. You are talking about a multi million worldwide selling piece of software, If there was a reason not to agree to that licence agreement somebody would have highlighted it before that product got to me.
Now I havent really signed many contracts in my life only for my jobs mortgages etc But I believe that is a little bit different to what we are talking about here, something like that though is tailor made for an individual is it not ? taking into account that individual's circumstances / finances etc to sign that without reading it or even a solicitor reading it for you first would I think be rather foolish.
I would be willing to bet if you asked most people on this forum "do you read the licence agreement before clicking yes I accept" a huge percentage would do the same as me.
 
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I think it's funny that people will use social engineering to get over on m$ and get activated over the phone (which I admit have done various times) but would not just download a good vista bootleg torrent . TBH, the later option is easier. I'm fully activated vista ultimate 64x sp2 and have downloaded every update on a pc at work someone used a downloaded vista disk on.

Of course even though I have done the social engineering thing, I don't condone the second option.

You know how many crap pc's have been given to me? I have bought a couple of windows disks but when someone hands me a $20 pos, I'm not going to go buy another $200 disk to run this thing. I firmly believe the older OS's should be freeware by now or at least no longer require activation. Win 98 and xp, i'm looking at you!
 
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If you install an OEM copy of Windows on a different mobo you will have to phone MS.

Depending on what option you press you will either speak to someone or be taken to menu where you have to key in some amazingly long number on your phone... Then you get given another number you have to key into Windows. After this you are activated, but NOT properly licensed...

I upgraded my whole computer, did the above and activated ok. I realise I was in breach of the license. I am now running Win7 on the machine in my sig and have since put my OEM copy back on the original machine and had to do the same again...

I guess that machine is now fully legit again... ha ha ha... although I am not sure.

Ethical? Not sure. I knew Win7 was due out so I wasn't prepared to splash out for another copy of Vista...

The price for Windows 7 retail is the same for upgrade. So that issue will not crop up again...

Well happy, as I will be planning to move to Core i7 and will need a new Mobo... And I will be buying two Win7 (as if you preorder you can get them half price!)....
 
Memphis said:
Reading this thread is like banging your head against a brick wall. It was never really a good idea :(.
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ha ha ha! I don't know why that made me laugh so much.

Yeah, basically your not supposed to be able to change mobo's with an OEM copy, although you can still get it activated if you are prepared to lie on the prompts.

My advice.

Keep Vista tied to the old mobo. Install Win7 RC on the new mobo, come july 15th preoder it for £50. Its the retail version so you can upgrade your mobo as much as you like after that.

You can use your old mobo + vista as a 2nd machine.

Job done. :)

(and without being unethical, like me!)
 
I am on my 6th motherboard in the past 18 months and I have used the same oem vista 64 bit....no problems...a couple of times i have had to ring them up and speak to them....they just ask if you are using it on the one pc only...you say yes and they activate it....on the most recent install i just did it automatically over the phone....I guess i have been lucky maybe
 
Griff7520 said:
I am on my 6th motherboard in the past 18 months and I have used the same oem vista 64 bit....no problems...a couple of times i have had to ring them up and speak to them....they just ask if you are using it on the one pc only...you say yes and they activate it....on the most recent install i just did it automatically over the phone....I guess i have been lucky maybe
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Not lucky. Just unlicensed. ;)
 
Ninja Please! said:
I think it's funny that people will use social engineering to get over on m$ and get activated over the phone (which I admit have done various times) but would not just download a good vista bootleg torrent
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The problem is that nobody knows what 'extras' reside within those bootleg copies.

An unlicenced clean copy is preferable to an unlicenced unclean copy.

We don't need more additions to the botnet pool. :p
 
eXor said:
The problem is that nobody knows what 'extras' reside within those bootleg copies.
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Except extra's that remove all the DRM crap, nothing provided you get a proper release.
An unlicenced clean copy is preferable to an unlicenced unclean copy.
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No it is definitely not, a clean copy moans every time you change your hardware configuration significantly. My xp still works after going through 6 mainboards and prolly over 15-20 cpu's without ever moaning about activation, yet a legit copy wanted reactivating on the smallest stupidest change.
We don't need more additions to the botnet pool. :p
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And any proper scene release doesn't have any of this or would get nuked if it had.


What I'm saying it, except that it's illegal, a pirated copy is far preferable and more user friendly than genuine crap.
 
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