Does anyone else not hate GFWL?

orderoftheflame said:
Whut? If it's users not setting up their firewall properly, it's still GFWLs fault?

There are hundreds of programs out there that will foul up with an incorrectly setup firewall, Steam will do it as well!

I'm not defending GFWL like some crazed fanboy, I far prefer Steam. However, I've never had a problem with it, and never seen an issue where the user had 0 blame for the problem.
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I don't know why you keep going on about firewalls as if that's the only problem GFWL has.

My errors were not related to firewall settings.
 
orderoftheflame said:
Whut? If it's users not setting up their firewall properly, it's still GFWLs fault?

There are hundreds of programs out there that will foul up with an incorrectly setup firewall, Steam will do it as well!

I'm not defending GFWL like some crazed fanboy, I far prefer Steam. However, I've never had a problem with it, and never seen an issue where the user had 0 blame for the problem.
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The problem is... people are generally idiots, and these things need to be made idiot-proof if they're going to be popular. It's still microsoft's fault for not making a program that customers get on with.

Imo the main problem with gfwl is it doesn't seem to be improving at all. Steam started off crap but valve listened to the complaints and it got better with each update. GFWL has been out for a few years now, and just as many people seem to be complaining about it as when it was first released.
 
I had no problems with GFWL whatsoever until the latest update. Why on earth have they suddenly decided to force us to run two services permanently?! This sort of thing really annoys me as it's so unnecessary to have two services sitting running the whole time, using resources, just to be able to sign on to a freaking game that's going to be played offline! And if you disable the services, the games wont even start.

Not a big deal to some, but I value my resources and hate having the clutter of ridiculous services sitting there running for the sake of it. Idiots.
 
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