Does anyone have OCD? : Obsessive compulsive disorder

I find it interesting that you're so concerned about what you perceive as dirt, but then smoke, which is making a mess of your lungs. Have you ever seen pictures of lungs from a smoker compared to those of a non-smoker? That has to be pretty high on the scale of things that are unclean.

This was the very first thing I thought of when reading his post.
He's not OK with being dirty on the outside but is OK with being very dirty on the inside :confused:
Of course like all smokers he will have an excuse.
 
I find it interesting that you're so concerned about what you perceive as dirt, but then smoke, which is making a mess of your lungs. Have you ever seen pictures of lungs from a smoker compared to those of a non-smoker? That has to be pretty high on the scale of things that are unclean.

This was the very first thing I thought of when reading his post.
He's not OK with being dirty on the outside but is OK with being very dirty on the inside :confused:
Of course like all smokers he will have an excuse.

OCD is not logical.
 
This was the very first thing I thought of when reading his post.
He's not OK with being dirty on the outside but is OK with being very dirty on the inside :confused:
Of course like all smokers he will have an excuse.

I expect it's something to do with not having thought about it, or dis-associative thoughts towards it.

OCD is not logical.

I never suggested it was, however I do expect it might be something that they simply hadn't thought about before.

I know just how illogical OCD can be, because people in here are demonstrating that they have a fear of germs, and the actions they take to protect themselves from these germs are increasing the likelihood of them actually becoming ill from these sort of germs.

I expect having obsessive compulsions about germs is somewhat related to not actually understanding how germs and hygiene actually works though, despite the fact that I know it's a condition that forgoes logical thought.
 
1) Start smoking
2) Become physiologically addicted
3) Develop OCD
4) Realise the contradiction, but due to dependency not able/willing to do anything about it (plus, of course, the argument that some smokers have in that it 'calms them' - maybe it calms the OCD behaviours?)
 
OCD sufferers mostly know that a lot of their actions are illogical or that it doesn't make sense (though not all the time, and not about everything) but that doesn't help one bit, its a compulsive action. Its hard to stop, its very stressful to stop and I imagine frightening.

OCD sufferers often don't get better just by themselves, quite the opposite for most actually. Over time it will get worse, naturally there will always be times where its better and times where its worse but steadily and surely it will get worse, in most cases. Each and every time an OCD sufferer feels compelled to wash their hands, check the door, align things or what ever the particular vice is at that moment in time, they are basically reinforcing the thought that "If I don't wash my hands (or what ever it is) bad things are going happen".

Most suffers wont ever be free of OCD but with the right help the individual can learn the right techniques and skills to break the Obsess > be compelled > Obsess and get to a point where OCD does not control the person, but the person controls the OCD.

To break the obsessive compulsive cycle it usually requires professional help, as well as in most cases medication to even begin to tackle things like CBT (cognitive behavior therapy) and ET (exposure therapy). CBT and ET combined is the recommended treatment for OCD. Exposure therapy is as it sounds, exposing the sufferer to anxiety provoking situations, in increased levels. So say someone with contamination fears, they will first asked to touch something like a door handle, or shake hands with a stranger, later it will be something like a bin, floor or a toilet. The important thing is that the person does not let themselves wash their hands, to be contaminated and just deal with it.

The treatment is hard, its a long process but does really genuinely help.

Telling the sufferer to just "think" differently wont work, anything that we as non professionals or sufferers say to someone with ocd to try help them, wont work. Trying to get them to rationalize ocd and break it down, doesnt work.

I could sit there and say "that floor isnt dirty" or "dont worry about turning the light switch off in a set pattern, it doesnt do anything or make any sense, nothing bad will happen". I could say that 10101010010101 times to an OCD sufferer, but it doesnt change anything. Probably actually make it worse.
 
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they are basically reinforcing the thought that "If I don't wash my hands (or what ever it is) bad things are going happen".

This is exactly what happens to me but as soon as I reach that point I will purposely not repeat.
I posted above that I just broke the cycle on my cycle on the car park of the Britannia Stadium, if I don't follow a certain route then bad things will happen but on Tuesday I decided to do something different.
I now await my next repeating cycle and as soon as it gets bad I will stop.
 
Sounds good Dimple. Keep it up!

The more you indulge obsessive or compulsive thoughts, the more weight those thoughts have and the more you will obsess and want to compluse!
 
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I could sit there and say "that floor isnt dirty" or "dont worry about turning the light switch off in a set pattern, it doesnt do anything or make any sense, nothing bad will happen". I could say that 10101010010101 times to an OCD sufferer, but it doesnt change anything. Probably actually make it worse.

True. There is no quick solution. There are long-term solutions as long as the subject is cooperative. But sometimes there is just no solution.
 
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