Does anyone use UAC?

Doesnt turning the UAC off mean any virus can just install itself? I mean no matter how advanced you are you will not know when viruses install themselves.

Isn't that the point of an AV though? I've always turned UAC off in vista but i've not yet switched to 7.

edit - i'll probably leave it on if it's less intrusive in 7, but i've just done a virus and malware scan and all clear, this is on an october 2007 install of vista.
 
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To those who can't live with the pop-ups, you can disable them while still leaving the other aspects of UAC protection enabled editing the 'ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin' in regedit.

1. In regedit, go to: (See screenshot below)

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System

2. In the right pane, right click on ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin and click on Modify.

3. To Elevate Administrators Privilege Level for no Prompting by UAC - Type '0' & click OK
 
I don't think that's quite right. I'm not an IT person, I have UAC on, and I check what's trying to run when it pops up. If I don't know what it is I have a quick google. Surely that's just common sense?

I visit 3/4 home users a day, 95% know less than you then..... also most people would not know how to google hte popup, or even why the popup was there... they would hit the most likley button to make it go away which is the OK button...
 
had it turned off in Vista, and never had a problem.

but i have it turned on in 7, it does pop up now and again, but its bearable
 
The fancy new version of the Alureon rootkit in the news today is basically only preventable by a UAC prompt, says quite a lot... Eats straight through driver digital signatures and PatchGuard.

See. These are precisely the sort of things I'm talking about. The sort of **** that some crappy so-called "anti-virus" product doesn't have a hope in hell of catching.
 
uac is ok for IT people however its pointless for users as they will always click on OK to what ever warning popsup and so still get infected

The elevation dialog aspect of User Account Control is not for security purposes, they're a convenience to enable users to run with standard user rights. UAC is a step to shift the Windows environment from an administrative based model over to a standard user one. Before Windows Vista came out, everyone was basically running as an administrator, since that was the default in Windows, and this resulted in software being designed for that administrative model. This is something that needed to change.

As of Windows Vista, due to the implementation of User Account Control, when you log into the initial account which is created upon installation, referred to as a Protected Administrator, you run in a mode called Administrator Approval Mode and are given two tokens, one with standard user rights and the other with administrator rights. The standard user token is used by default. This means that everyone now appears as if they are standard users from a software developers perspective which encourages them to write their applications so they work correctly with standard user rights and don't unnecessarily require administrator rights.

Whilst running as a Protected Administrator is securer than running as an administrator, the security benefits are merely a side effect of the primary purpose of the Protected Administrator account, which as said above is to encourage software developers to write their applications so they work correctly with standard user rights. If you're interested in moving over to a standard user account in the future, then using the Protected Administrator account is a nice first step towards that goal.

UAC's real value is enabling users to take advantage of a security feature i.e. standard user accounts, primarily due to the elevation dialogs. When ever the user wishes to perform an administrative based operation, instead of having to switch to an administrator account, they will be able to do that operation on the fly by entering the credentials of an administrator user into the over the shoulder elevation dialog. Whilst the latter isn't quite as secure as the former, since elevation always introduces an insecurity to the system, it is much better than the alternative of users running as an administrator all the time, which would happen if users had no other way of accessing administrator rights other than switching accounts.

Some reading material:

Inside Windows Vista User Account Control - Mark Russinovich

Inside Windows 7 User Account Control - Mark Russinovich

Security Features vs. Convenience - Jim Allchin

PsExec, User Account Control and Security Boundaries - Mark Russinovich
 
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Turned off and using the unlocked admin account, there is a balance between usability and security and for me UAC just took it to one extreme with unnecessary prompts. When you're developing software you don't want the computer frozen every time you access the command prompt or move program files around.
 
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