Does Lager have to be strong to be nice?

They don't, but I think coincidentally, of those that I like, most seem to be stronger, continental lagers.

Also, strangely, I really like Coors, but hate every other American beer. I find it very refreshing. Rarely buy it though, as there are other drinks I prefer that are generally cheaper.
 
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divaboy said:
Either of you care to expand on your posts for us none lager experts:confused::rolleyes:
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Well let's start with the fact that there's no such thing as Lager - it's a silly term invented by the Brits to distinguish pale continental bottom-fermented beers from darker local top-fermented ones. Ask for a lager anywhere else in the world and they'll look at you blankly. Everywhere else it's just beer/bier etc.

That out of the way, the only people who can make proper yellow beer are Germans and Czechs. Really. Not Italians, Mexicans, Japanese, Chinese, Canadians, Americans or anyone else. The Belgians make some good beers, but their attempts at yellow beer are still far behind the Germans. Their dark beers are good though.

Weissbier is for people who don't like beer and thing Stella is a good pint.

Any beer brewed under licence in any country apart from that of origin is bad. The Rheinheitsgebot or its local equivalent is a must: it's why German Guiness is so much nicer than British, and almost up with Irish. If the can/bottle says brewed in country X and England/Britain, you can bet it was actually brewed in England. That includes almost every big-name beer in Britain.


There, have I annoyed enough people yet?


M
 
Whilst you have some good points, but overall you're quite wrong and you just scream beer snob.
A few issues with it - The Rheinheitsgebot doesn't exist anymore, whilst some breweries claim to abide by it (and do) others claim to abide by it (and do not. For example, you get wheat beers which claim to abide by it which is impossible).
You're knowledge of beer and breweries is clearly very very very small with your sweeping statement that Germans and Czechs are the only ones who can make "proper yellow beer". That is frankly absurd.
I've had some OK Weissbiers, but it's not a style that I enjoy. I reject the notion that it is for people that don't like beer as it's pretty dimensional, full of flavour (albeit different ones traditionally seen as 'beerlike') and is still a beer. There are no rules on what beer should taste like, should be made from or what it is.
Your penultimate point is total and utter rubbish and you have nothing to back it up with. The final point though probably has a bit of truth to it. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing.

I'm not entirely sure if it was a trolling post or not, but it is very very very wrong.
 
For those who asked what good larger is.

Many Foreign lagers
Plenty of micro brewery's about these days
Samuel smiths actually does two very nice lagers http://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/
Butcombe blond/pilsner/Weissbier

It's certainly not carling, carlsberg, Stella type rubbish.
Adventua into some different bars and expand your range.

It's just like strongbow and the likes are naff ciders.

Plenty of pubs which huge selection of poper lager/cider/beers in Bristol.
 
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Ahleckz said:
Whilst you have some good points, but overall you're quite wrong and you just scream beer snob.
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Assuming that you are using snob in the traditional sense (I can tell the difference between good and bad, and see no reason to accept adequate when good is an option) then guilty as charged.

The Rheinheitsgebot still exits, it just isn't law any more. The EU banned the Germans from using it to restrict imports, and it has no (AFAIK) true legal meaning any more, but it is still used as an ideal, and still appears on some German beer bottles. You are probably right that it gets abused, but I suspect that such companies would fall foul of the local equivalent of Trading Standards if they did. And it's still an good ideal to work towards. If all yellow beers that failed it were banned, then I can't think of a good beer which would disappear.

And if you are calling my comment about foreign beers being brewed in England my final point, then no, there is nothing good coming from it.

As for my expertise I don't claim to be an expert as I've probably not had more than about three hundred beers from about twenty countries. Still not encountered any exceptions to my German/Czech rule though.


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No, lager doesn't have to be strong to be nice and I agree with all the comments above with regards to the typical pub staples.

Thankfully, if a places best lager turns out to be Kronenberg, at least there will be Newcastle Brown in bottles.

Thankfully I know where to find Pilsner Urquell, Bitburger & Zatec on tap. Alongside a few bars with copious bottled beers to pass the night away.

Warsteiner Dunkel, how I miss thee. :(.

Quite partial to Flensburger at the minute, particularly the Pilsen.
 
Ahleckz said:
This thread offends me so much.

Coors light being nice, Stella being called a strong beer, people not understanding what lager is, and suggestions that Carling is worth drinking.

I don't even know where to begin.
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I'm with you mate, wouldn't use that stuff as drain cleaner :eek:
 
I don't mind Carling :) It's far and away the best run-of-the-mill lager.

How anyone can drink Stella or Carlsberg is beyond me.
 
German beer

Is the best I think.
You just have to try Furstenberg from morrisons.
I would say it is one of the best german beers us brits can get from the supermarket.
Ps i love all german beers.....hmmmmmm holsten pils is my fave canned beer - pils.
 
Meridian said:
Still not encountered any exceptions to my German/Czech rule though.
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The trouble is your doing it wrong, to decide if a beer is any good you have to enjoy it in it's natural surroundings, German beer tastes great in Germany and is great in the UK as we have similar socail structures and climates.

To understand an appreciate a south American beer you have to be drinking it in a South American climate in a south American way the same goeas for the great beers of the east or central asia. There is a simple reason that cobra tastes better on a warm sunny day when accompanied by a curry and that is because that is how the brewer concieved it!

PS your snobbery is laughable :cool:
 
Tuborg, Carling, Coors, Peroni. All nice and refreshing. Personal fav though is Brahma.

Bitburger on tap :D

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And lager/beer elitists :rolleyes:
 
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It's generally accepted on the continent that lager needs to be reasonably strong (5%) to brew well. That's proper lager mind not chemical rubbish like Carling.

Kolschs tend to pretty drinkable, and typically weigh in just under 5%, mind.

Personally, though, if you want something light, drinkable and not too strong to my mind you're better going for one of the British golden ales than trying to get a weak lager.
 
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