Does this make any sense at all? (BADCAPS.NET)

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The BADCAPS.NET site was created to counter the bad capacitor problem that has been plaguing computer motherboards since about 1999 to the present day. It now being 2007, I am STILL seeing later model boards with this problem. The tale behind why the capacitor problem exists in the first place is because of a large-scale industrial espionage foul-up. Some component manufacturers decided to steal an electrolyte formula from another competitor. Little beknown to them, the stolen formula was incomplete and flawed. They didn't discover this until it was too late and they had manufactured and distributed literally MILLIONS of these flawed capacitors. However, it's been going on way too long simply to blame on an industrial espionage boo-boo in my humble opinion, as this problem is still extremely common, and hasn't slowed down. Personally, I think it all boils down to shoddy components that are manufactured by shoddy component makers.

Over the years, there have been massive quantities of name-brand, high quality motherboards failing prematurely due to these faulty electrolytic capacitors used in their manufacturing process. This has doomed MANY popular and expensive brands of motherboards, including: Abit, Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Supermicro, DFI, Dell, Hewlett Packard, IBM, and MANY more! The objective here isn't to smear the names of these manufacturers, as AT THE TIME they had no clue they were purchasing shoddy components until after the damage was already done... Sadly, some manufacturers continue to use these shoddy capacitors even after this issue became public.

Most all the information about this problem is scattered in bloated forums, newsgroups, and unreliable (here today, gone tomorrow) websites. That in itself is enough to make you throw your board in the trash! I've gathered a lot of information, along with my own knowledge and experience, and created a central location to post it. Hopefully this will bring your search to an end!!
I only ask because I stumbled across this site while trying to find a replacement PSU for an Arctic Cooling Silentium T1. Personally, I have never had a board fail one me where I could put it down to the capacitors (as if I could tell anyhow) - is this tale true?
 
stockhausen said:
I only ask because I stumbled across this site while trying to find a replacement PSU for an Arctic Cooling Silentium T1. Personally, I have never had a board fail one me where I could put it down to the capacitors (as if I could tell anyhow) - is this tale true?

It may well be, but sounds abit tin hat to me. I haven't had any problem with capacitors in all the motherboards I have had so it isn't a shockingly largescale problem. :)
 
I have had 1 on a jetway board, lts of hassle getting it changed, its the main reason why i buy gigabyte boards as nowdays all theirs come with solid caps and so wont leak/stop working
 
I don't know how true it is, it is possible but I don't know anyone personally who has suffered from leaking caps so I don't think the problem is as widespread as that site claims. I just make sure mine are covered in a layer of dust so it soaks up any residue. ;) As ste_bla mentions Gigabyte (and possibly a couple of others now) use solid caps so it shouldn't even matter much any more. :)
 
It is true it used to happen a lot back in the socket A days but I wouldn't worry about it too much TBH especially with the popular use of solid caps.
 
steve258 said:
It is true it used to happen a lot back in the socket A days but I wouldn't worry about it too much TBH especially with the popular use of solid caps.


Slot A and early Socket A boards :)

I know Abit KA7's and I beleive KT7's had the problem at times, as my brothers KA7 died from it a few days after an I series LAN (and I can remember a number of other people having the same issue 12-18 months after getting the boards).
 
worked as desktop support for a company and all pc's were dell, had shedloads of mobo's swapped out for faulty capacitors, went all brown and gunky..... not good
 
My Epia M10000 died of this exact problem just a few weeks ago. Ran like a charm for about 2 years, then failed to boot. The caps match the ones on that site. All bulgy and leaky...
 
It wasn't just motherboards that were affected, the dodgy Transistors went into all sorts of electronics if I remember rightly. It's an old problem though, shouldn't be too much of an issue now.
 
G1BB0 said:
worked as desktop support for a company and all pc's were dell, had shedloads of mobo's swapped out for faulty capacitors, went all brown and gunky..... not good
Yep, happened to one of my Dell's. I've read that an entire lot of Optiplex motherboards were affected and Dell were forced to offer free replacements.

They don't fail immediately, but within a year or two.

Whether the espionage story is true or not, it's certainly true that one capacitor manufacturer produced a millions and millions of dodgy capacitors that affected a lot of boards. The capacitors affected were the ones that burst on my Dell board.
 
csmager said:
Yep, happened to one of my Dell's. I've read that an entire lot of Optiplex motherboards were affected and Dell were forced to offer free replacements.

Was the Optiplex GX270, supplied primarily to businesses, during Financial year 2003-2004. I only know that because I work support for a large government organisation that purchased 4011 of them that had to have their boards swapped out! That was a big rollout!
 
How about 60+ Socket 370 boards? All Aopen. RM sent us an email that they were gonna send us 65 new s370 mobos about 3 yrs after they sold us the kit. We were surprised to say the least! :D Opened up a few PCs and sure enough the majority suffered from Bad caps and all the machines over the years were giving issues like freezing and needing reloading every few months, we chalked it up to the Software demands going up and the boards not being fully compatiable with XP (not designed for it really) but the replacements were troublefree for a yr or so, however the sent us cheapo S370 boards with NO namebrand and they started to fail as well, just due to being built cheaply somewhere in china and not due to caps, very thin and very very cheaply made. Luckily we don't have many dinosaurs remaining and most of the machines are Pentium 4 Northwood 2.8 at least and now many C2D 1.66Ghz rigs as well.
 
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