Does windows run faster on a mac?!

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 13:49

A friend says that windows 7 will run faster on a mac than it would on a PC of the same hardware.

I think that they should run at the same speed.

Can anyone shed some light in this?

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 15:48

Thankyou all!

I have told him he's wrong but apparently OcUK apple hardware is too biased :rolleyes:

Any more mac based forums I could try that aren't full of retards?

Some people simply won't let it rest. He's even gone as far as saying that the mac pros that you can customise will be better only because they have 32gb ram :rolleyes:

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 16:59

QwaF said:
Hehe, Apple section biased against Apple? You could try http://forums.macrumors.com, they're not too bad.

I'd love to know what exactly the reason he thinks Windows run better on Apple hardware (which is.. ehem.. the same hardware regular PC manufacturers use..).

Thanks

That was my reasoning aswell!

Jay794 said:
If he's an Apple fanboy there's obviously no reasoning with him

I'll get their in The end!

Skyboat said:
The only possible thing that would affect performance would be the EFI firmware, but it doesn't. How about asking him WHY he thinks it should run better and ask him to provide proof as to where he 'heard' this?

Apparently something to do with Some parallel software?!

He says the evidence is "all over the Internet" and that I should look there!

Honestly, after talking about this for. A few mins my eyes actually started hurting from all the rolling!!

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 19:37

joey1211 said:
Are you sure that he didn't mean the mac will run faster with Windows 7 on it?

No, made sure of that :/

lamboman said:
There was a story published back in 2006 or so, I think by the US PC Mag, where the Macbook Pro literally barely beat out a comparable competitor, to which many Apple fanboys decided that Macs run Windows faster. Utter BS - how can the same hardware run at different speeds?

Ah, damn fanboys!

pingwing said:
Cast him out!!!

EDIT: thanks for tht mrochester

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 19:53

slinxy said:
IF anything it should run slower, if the PC as its bios optimized to the best performance as the mac rely on its firmware. Not many OEM box shifters have all the bios features available for tweaking, but a self built one will do.

Interesting, I didn't think of that!

Then again, macs that have been designed to work with windows will also have configured BIOS'

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 20:01

mrochester said:
I doubt there's anything of significance you can do in the BIOS to have an effect on speed. Certainly, my MBP with SSD in Windows is just as snappy and responsive as my desktop PC.

slinxy said:
No, there's no such thing as a bios on a mac, they have a firmware with fixed settings as per version of firmware. Yes it can be hacked but far too much effort for such little reward.

Ah right.

On a side not, would an macs be as good as y PC for a similar price?

Specs:
i7 3930K
Asus Rampage 4 mobob
120GB SSD
GTX 570 2.5GB SLI
TJ11
Blu ray
Custom water
16GB RAM

Cost circa £3k

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 20:04

PhillyDee said:
No, you clearly have it watercooled, and assuming you have, heavily overclocked. I don't even think you can overclock a mac. . . .

I have it all at stock... for now

mrochester said:
Well the consumer iMac comes with a screen and the prosumer Mac Pro uses Xeon processors so there's no machine that's directly comparable.

I heard you could get some pro's with SBE's :eek:

I'll have a look later, just thought it'd be faster asking the pros

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 20:08

mrochester said:
The nearest I can get to £3K is a fully loaded 27" iMac which gets you:

3.4Ghz Core i7
16GB RAM
2TB + 256GB SSD
Radeon 6970 2GB
Keyboard & Mouse

for £2612.40

That's not too bad. Forgot to mention I also have another 240gb SSD and a 1TB HDD

But only 1 6970?!

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 20:14

mrochester said:
Don't forget you're getting approx £600+ worth of screen for that price too

I doubt the iMac's have enough room to house 2 GPUs.

Ah yes, that is true. Don't the iMacs use mobile grpahics or is it a full 6970?

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 20:23

So basically no mac can be compared to an enthusiast's PC?

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2012 at 20:52

Thanks for the help guys!

Cleeecooo · 18 Jan 2012 at 20:25

I know how snobby, disgusting and arrogant I sound when I say this, and I'm sorry, but do any of you have any actual qualifications?

My friend still won't acknowledge what you guys are saying due to lack of qualifications :rolleyes:

Cleeecooo · 18 Jan 2012 at 20:55

He saw something in PC world online review site and has now got it in his head :rolleyes:

Cleeecooo · 18 Jan 2012 at 21:01

Exactly what I'm thinking!

Cleeecooo · 18 Jan 2012 at 21:10

ng93 said:
It's gonna be a hard one to disprove as AFAIK no ones bothered benching a boot camp install against a same speced PC, presumably because it would be a complete waste of time.

This is as close as I can find to an equal hardware comparison.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3889/apple-macbook-pro-13-as-windows7-laptop/4

Thanks

Cleeecooo · 18 Jan 2012 at 22:56

Tempting, I'll have a go bringing him around

Cleeecooo · 19 Jan 2012 at 13:21

I love you guys!!!

I shall show all this to him!

Thanks again!

Cleeecooo · 19 Jan 2012 at 17:57

I have to say, apple simply can't be beaten on sleek looks (laptops)

The macbook air is beautiful!

I shall e having strong words with my friend about this.

I wouldn't be surprised if he asks for proof from the guys with the degrees :rolleyes:

Cleeecooo · 20 Jan 2012 at 07:36

There's nothing wrong with buying a mac for technical superiority. It's when people say it ha technical superiority simply because of the OS or the logo!

Cleeecooo · 20 Jan 2012 at 10:52

Guys, need a hand again. Still Saying macs are better than my computer!

What's the best mac pro and what price is it please? Not at a computer at the moment an want to lay this to rest ASAP