Poll: Door or no door?
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Alu_ATC said:
There are exclusive ATCS cases, but they were always exclusive - 201s (champagne) are 10 a penny typically selling for around £30-£40 second hand now.
If everyone had ATCS cases mine still wouldn't be boring to me, it's all personal opinion. Every man and his dog seems to have a Lian Li PC7+ but it's not a boring case to me and if i had a system that would benefit significantly from 120mm fans i would have a PC7+
I've never bought or sold at a premium, the most expensive ATCS case i have purchased was a brand new ATC 111c-SX1 at a cost of £70inc, i wouldn't call that a premium. I haven't sold a ATCS case yet either. I did test the water on ebay a while ago with the 111b-SX2 i restored and it reached £63 iirc again not a premium for such a case having been restored to a high standard.
There was a time (when you purchased the 110) that cases were being sold at a premium, unfortunately i couldn't afford the premium. But now even 110s are selling around the £60 mark as well.
Alu_ATC said:*Yawn* The TJ03 is not a 110 rip off, it was actually designed by the same design team and specifically designer as the 110. So believe it or not, its actually much closer to being its successor. People just believe its a rip off as Silverstone make it.The ATC team chose to disband and many went to Silverstone.
Correct, have a cigar. That's a very well known fact abot Silverstone. Still a rip off though as it's another company almost copying the successful design of another company regardless of how/why it came about.
I currently have a praetorian avec door, but my next case will definately not have one.
I'm looking forward to being able to install a display in the drive bays showing temps, ram, cpu etc. There's just no point doing that with a door in the way.
That said though, the praetorian is fantastic and a very cool (temperature wise) case.
I'm looking forward to being able to install a display in the drive bays showing temps, ram, cpu etc. There's just no point doing that with a door in the way.
That said though, the praetorian is fantastic and a very cool (temperature wise) case.
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Gawd, the poll is very close !
i voted door
but it is a tad annoying when you forget to tick those boxxes in burning programsa and all you hear in the mifddle of the night is ' eeeek bump.... eeeek bump.... eeek bump''
and the noise the CD draw hitting the inside fo the case door is annoying too
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i voted door
but it is a tad annoying when you forget to tick those boxxes in burning programsa and all you hear in the mifddle of the night is ' eeeek bump.... eeeek bump.... eeek bump''
and the noise the CD draw hitting the inside fo the case door is annoying too
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Harib0 said:
I know its all personal opinion, but whatever the prices, it doesn't change the exclusivity. As for whether or not you sell at a premium - thats pretty much based on how much the buyer thinks the case is worth. I've never seen a 110 for £60, but I'll take your word for it, I didnt know the bubble had popped that badly.
Yewen said:Yeh, the bubble has certainly burst on the ATCs cases, bad for me.
Will try and pick up a new 110 now, just when I get that £300 together.
Unlucky mate, nothing lasts forever though. How bad is it? (You should get money from OcUK the number of cases you flog for them
)Hades said:
Thanks for the cigar.
I know its a well known fact, hence why I don't understand the argument that the TJ03 is a 110 'rip-off'. It's not Silverstone trying to copy the successful design of Coolermaster, CM went their own way. Not only that, anyone who knows anything about cases couldn't possibly confuse the two cases. Also, you'll find plenty off 110 owners don't like the TJ03 (for various reasons) and visa versa. If it was a 110 rip-off you wouldnt find much of this and the only reason to dislike it would be because it was a copy. Not to mention, the TJ03 was sold at a completely different time to the 110.How and why it came about is extremely important. Don't forget, CM let the ATC group disband, if those designers chose to go their own way then fine. If you look at Silverstone now, they clearly have their own style - the TJ03 doesn't stick out as a 110 rip off, just thier old flagship.
The briefs were probably not too dissimilar, but regardless of where a designer works he will have his own style. The designer of the 110 designed and built that fantastic case, but ATC's split up, he moved on to Silverstone. He then built his next case - the TJ03. Is he expected to be a totally different designer just because he has moved companies?! Silverstone recongnised the talent of the ATC's designers and wanted to begin a new company aimed at the same market as Coolermaster.
Ok, enough of a rant. But at the end of the day, what your saying is a designer ripped off his own work just because his case was manufactured by a different company to his last case. Had he been a free-lance designer, it could have been a very different story. Think of it like car designers, many make designs for a multitude of companies and have them produced by different manufacturers. That doesn't mean its a rip off.
The coolermaster wavemaster black is beautiful with a door,, I have just got the black version from the silver version,,,, and its the sexest case ive ever seen or bought,, Just need to cut a 120mm hole in the side to improve air flow and cover it up with a black fan grill.
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Door or stealthed drives, either look good.
A door wouldn't get annoying though, and can look very nice. There's an Antec case which looks very good which a guy i'm working for has his editing PC in, the P180.
Damn I would love that PC.
A door wouldn't get annoying though, and can look very nice. There's an Antec case which looks very good which a guy i'm working for has his editing PC in, the P180.
Damn I would love that PC.