Downward pointing ethernet socket

Harnser · 7 Jun 2020 at 16:59

In the forum archives I came across pictures of an ethernet socket where the cables came out pointing down, not straight into the room. Seems a great idea.

I can't find the post again, or the product on Amazon. Where I can get them? Thanks.

SupraWez · 7 Jun 2020 at 17:07

Try searching for angled rj45 wall plate, seems to give the result your looking for

Harnser · 7 Jun 2020 at 17:30

SupraWez said:
Try searching for angled rj45 wall plate, seems to give the result your looking for

Easy when you know what to search for

Thanks @SupraWez!

It didn't give what I'd seen but those look very useful and can be flush mounted. What I'd seen (and now found using your search term) was these:

WJA96 · 7 Jun 2020 at 18:53

Did you find them? That’s a CCS 4000 vertical entry socket.

Cable Monkey is your best source

https://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/cat6-modules-outlets/13105-cat6-ccs-4000-series-vertical-outlets.html

Harnser · 7 Jun 2020 at 19:52

Thanks @WJA96 found it! Am digging the Connectix stuff.

bledd · 7 Jun 2020 at 21:57

Used a couple of these in work. Only downside with them is all of the ports are on one PCB. So if one port gets damaged, then you have to replace the whole thing.

Not a deal breaker, but worth knowing. Also a bit more of a pain to punchdown compared to a traditional wall port.

Harnser · 7 Jun 2020 at 22:04

Whatever socket I pick is going to be my first time doing punchdown, so Im expecting much trial, error and swearing.

Hyburnate · 7 Jun 2020 at 22:07

Harnser said:
Whatever socket I pick is going to be my first time doing punchdown, so Im expecting much trial, error and swearing.

It’s quite simple, buy yourself a peg stripping tool and a decent punch down tool, untwist as little as possible

SupraWez · 7 Jun 2020 at 22:09

Punching down is much easier than crimping which can be a real PITA

WJA96 · 8 Jun 2020 at 04:37

If you look for Fiber Ninja on YouTube he has a punch down video where he preps all cables by making a loop in the pair rather than untwisting them. It’s probably how everyone does it, but it was a revelation for me! You can get the cable end super-close to the IDC connector.

And @bledd is absolutely correct about those sockets. The cables come through a slot at the back and the IDC is straight so if you’re doing a lot of them, it does take longer. But if you’re only doing a few at home they’re fine.

WJA96 · 8 Jun 2020 at 04:38

SupraWez said:
Punching down is much easier than crimping which can be a real PITA

Agreed.

Madwelsh · 11 Jun 2020 at 14:19

WJA96 said:
If you look for Fiber Ninja on YouTube he has a punch down video where he preps all cables by making a loop in the pair rather than untwisting them. It’s probably how everyone does it, but it was a revelation for me! You can get the cable end super-close to the IDC connector.

And @bledd is absolutely correct about those sockets. The cables come through a slot at the back and the IDC is straight so if you’re doing a lot of them, it does take longer. But if you’re only doing a few at home they’re fine.

Can you add a link to this please? The looping part, I've had a look, maybe I'm just dull, but I didn't see, he does have many vids !

bremen1874 · 11 Jun 2020 at 14:31

'Looping' was quick and easy with Cat5/Cat5e. The much tighter twist and thicker conductors of Cat6 and above make it much less practicable.

WJA96 · 11 Jun 2020 at 14:41

Well, here’s a guy doing it right with CAT 6A - if you thought those little spiky bits on the keystone IDC were just for show...

https://youtu.be/Z7HVbhnCWEQ

Harnser · 11 Jun 2020 at 15:03

bremen1874 said:
'Looping' was quick and easy with Cat5/Cat5e. The much tighter twist and thicker conductors of Cat6 and above make it much less practicable.

I'm leaning towards Cat5e as can't see the need for faster at home, max run is ~30m, and it's easier to work with.

Any good reason to do Cat6 instead?

Caged · 11 Jun 2020 at 15:05

I like the spine in the Cat6 cable, stops it deforming so easily.

bremen1874 · 11 Jun 2020 at 15:06

Harnser said:
Any good reason to do Cat6 instead?

Not really. Cat5e still has its place.

pepp77 · 11 Jun 2020 at 15:20

No reason to do Cat6 ever, it has basically zero benefits over Cat5e. Cat6a however is a different story.

WJA96 · 11 Jun 2020 at 16:03

Harnser said:
I'm leaning towards Cat5e as can't see the need for faster at home, max run is ~30m, and it's easier to work with.

Any good reason to do Cat6 instead?

Because one day, you'll realise that you woosed out and you'll regret it. (joking - it's OK to woose out)

In the meanwhile, just to prove that even a 10-thumbed idiot like me can do it...

Just make a little gap in each pair with your fingernail

Force the pairs down over the little humps on the keystone.

Then punch down - bear in mind that the scissor type Krone tools don't work on these. You need a 110 punch-down tool - or a total keystone punchdown tool.

I think that's acceptable!

It does help if you have the mother of all punchdown tools!

WJA96 · 11 Jun 2020 at 16:05

pepp77 said:
No reason to do Cat6 ever, it has basically zero benefits over Cat5e. Cat6a however is a different story.

So the entire network cabling industry is doing it wrong?