DPF Woes....

Red line....:eek::eek:

Was hitting it a few times on sunday, but will be taking it up high tonight and am banning myself from using 5th.

Ran data logging on trip home and oil deg went down by 5% almost :eek: Could see the filter temp start to increase, but not by a huge amount and no where near the hundreds of degrees I would expect on a regen

Something is deffo amiss with the motor.
 
Red line....:eek::eek:

Was hitting it a few times on sunday, but will be taking it up high tonight and am banning myself from using 5th.

Ran data logging on trip home and oil deg went down by 5% almost :eek: Could see the filter temp start to increase, but not by a huge amount and no where near the hundreds of degrees I would expect on a regen

Something is deffo amiss with the motor.


Ban yourself from 4th while you're at it ;)
 
lol this reminds me of my first mot when I had my discovery:
The emissions test was borderline. Guy at the garage asked how I drove it. At the time I was keeping the revs down for the health of my pocket.

He said DPF's need to be cleared out every so often, followed by the question "when did it last have a cambelt change?"
I told him it had been done about 2 months back. The response? "Good!"
He got in, started it up and stomped on the go-pedal up to the governor.

The cloud of black smoke was impressive and hung over the forecourt like some 1800's fog. There was also a patch of soot on the floor under the exhaust about the size of an A2 sheet of paper.

"You need to rag it once or twice a month to keep the filter clear mate"
This I duly did until it was time for the exhaust to be replaced, then I got shot of the DPF and the centre silencer for a straight through pipe all the way back to the back box. No more DPF clogging and a happy turbo, and slightly better spooling and economy. Iirc I blanked off the EGR valve at the same time too.
 
We have a 2014 VW Diesel which sometimes does short journeys, about 6 months ago a DPF light came on - Mrs was driving at the time so called me and I said "Rag the nuts out of it and take the long way home" - It cleared and hasn't come on since but we make sure we take it for a run at least once a week.

Interestingly upon the checking the manual it states "Get on to a motorway and drive spiritedly in a low gear, insuring revs are high" - then suggests 70mph in third held for at least 15 mins!
 
it can depend on the actual dpf regeneration cycle. Some cars have to me on a motorway at around 50mph in top gear for around 10mins to actually start the cycle off and at a higher speed and revs wont initiate the cycle. Others inject more diesel in the system to heat up the dpf more, others relie on the car to be driven hard to get the dpf hot to start the cycle, and others have an additive thats added to the fuel every fill up to allow it so go through and heat/clean the dpf.

Also never forget that the dpf is a serviceable item and will need replacing.

And also removing the dpf will now fail the mot.

Yup removal is mot fail.

taking it off and smashing the insides out then mapping the car to act like it's not there is not an mot fail ;)
 
This thread is why DPF suck.

Ironically EGR which reduces NOx causes more soot which then blocks the DPF
 
Yup that is true, does make me think that one day Vosa might then cotton on and say that if a DPF is fitted, then no soot should be emitted on the smoke test, and if it does then it would fail.

won't surprise me if they do that.

Yea. But any changes like that would only effect cars sold after that comes into effect. Would be a good few angry people otherwise
 
The engine probably has another fault that is causing it to smoke a lot and blocking the DPF quickly with the ECU continually starting regens to clear it

This happened to me and my old horrible Citroen C4. The injector(s) were faulty and creating smoke that the DPF was then catching and using to clog itself up with. Citroens fix? Replace the DPF...
 
36 degrees seems a bit low for a dpf temp, had it cooled down when you read it or was it read just after a run when engine was still warm?
 
Temp was read after engine was warm. Current blocking percentage is reading 34 now which should be below the level for having the light turned on....think summat is borked
 
Temp was read after engine was warm. Current blocking percentage is reading 34 now which should be below the level for having the light turned on....think summat is borked

A quick google shows the temperature sensor in the exhaust is a known weak spot that causes regens to fail if giving incorrect readings, what temperature is it reading when the engine is running ? it should be in the 100s.
 
Did get up to 40 odd the other day.....was suspecting that. Will have a look later how much they are and how easy they are to replace
 
Yup removal is mot fail.

taking it off and smashing the insides out then mapping the car to act like it's not there is not an mot fail ;)

Early discovery's were not fitted with a DPF so it's not so much of an issue for me. More modern cars however this is more of a problem, especially with all of the ecu stuff plugged into the engine and exhaust systems.

This thread is why DPF suck.

Ironically EGR which reduces NOx causes more soot which then blocks the DPF

You should have seen the state of my inlet manifold before I blanked the EGR.

kind of like this
http://forum.lro.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=54695

I had to remove the inlet manifold and soak the damn thing in white spirit then scrub it out with a long bottle brush.

A guy I know described the EGR valve as follows - "Imagine walking about all day with a pipe connected to your arse and breathing in all your farts."

EGR valves might indeed reduce exhaust manifold temps to some degree and reduce emissions by syphoning off gas from the turbo manifold to be burned a second time, but it's a poorly tacked on system on my landrover.
 
Finally have it nailed down.

Is indeed the temp sensor for the DPF.

Went out this evening...25 mins at 3.5k rpm and stil no sign of clearing....wel not entirely true. The DPF light did go off to be replaced by the check engine light.

Stopped and checked on the ECU scan and this showed excessive regen time...shocker. Reset that and both check engine and DPF lights are off. Checked the figures and DPF blockage was down to 24% and the temp on the filter after that drive...36 degrees.

Guess this failure is screwing with the program for working out the DPF regen cycles and levels.

Now need to find me a replacement temp probe and get that fitted or I will just end up back to where I was.

you are right...DPF's do suck. How can these be good for the environment when I have so far had to do nearly 100 miles to get this sorted....glad we are going petrol
 
Another quick update.....temp on sensor did make it up to 125 on the run.

Have plotted data as graph and will upload later when not on hobbled work connection.
 
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