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Down the gutter and into a grid.
Drainage Plans - Developer Not Playing Ball
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Down the gutter and into a grid.
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This really, especially the more he tries to explain it away, feels like Aruffell has simply run out of cash; can't afford the decent landscaping and looking for ways to get cash compensation out the developer.
Either that or buyers remorse.
Either that or buyers remorse.
When you landscape just replace the lids with ones that go with whatever surface you're laying down. You can get ones that you lay paving into, others that you can put turf in etc. This isn't a big deal. I'd rather have access to my drains to be able to unblock things if necessary than having to dig them up.
Or just a complete lack of understanding the difference between drains and inspection chambers, and the process of installing them on newbuild developments…
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If it bothers you that much dig round it, cut 6 inches off the chamber with a saw and place the cover back over. Put whatever membrane you are going to put down first over it and then your slate over that, just remember where it is when your drains are blocked.
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Given the consistency of member responses including from people with direct experience or in the industry and that he is still somewhat ignoring them in recent posts; I'm going with cash/compo/buyers remorse plus yours... Full house then
Yeah, you’re probably right!
Here's a good example of what the OP is trying to say.....
https://goo.gl/maps/hnoLASnDWNL2
That's a recent development that i dealt with. All of the plots have visible 'drain covers' for inspection into both the foul and surface water drainage before they reach the main road some on lawns, some in gravel and in one plot, on the earth where it hasn't been finished getting landscaped. By building regulation standards any manholes have to be located within the plot boundary so its quite frankly impossible for there to be no visible 'drain / drain covers' in his own house plot without the developer being breach of the regulations.
https://goo.gl/maps/hnoLASnDWNL2
That's a recent development that i dealt with. All of the plots have visible 'drain covers' for inspection into both the foul and surface water drainage before they reach the main road some on lawns, some in gravel and in one plot, on the earth where it hasn't been finished getting landscaped. By building regulation standards any manholes have to be located within the plot boundary so its quite frankly impossible for there to be no visible 'drain / drain covers' in his own house plot without the developer being breach of the regulations.
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Here's a good example of what the OP is trying to say.....
https://goo.gl/maps/hnoLASnDWNL2
That's a recent development that i dealt with. All of the plots have visible 'drain covers' for inspection into both the foul and surface water drainage before they reach the main road some on lawns, some in gravel and in one plot, on the earth where it hasn't been finished getting landscaped. By building regulation standards any manholes have to be located within the plot boundary so its quite frankly impossible for there to be no visible 'drain / drain covers' in his own house plot without the developer being breach of the regulations.
argh, why has no one hidden the movement joints behind the rainwater pipes?!
How much do those go for? Nice sized driveways and garages! Wouldnt mind retiring further North in the future.Here's a good example of what the OP is trying to say.....
https://goo.gl/maps/hnoLASnDWNL2
That's a recent development that i dealt with. All of the plots have visible 'drain covers' for inspection into both the foul and surface water drainage before they reach the main road some on lawns, some in gravel and in one plot, on the earth where it hasn't been finished getting landscaped. By building regulation standards any manholes have to be located within the plot boundary so its quite frankly impossible for there to be no visible 'drain / drain covers' in his own house plot without the developer being breach of the regulations.
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Being scotland £30/40 at a guess
Is there not a regulation that movement joints need to be at least 1m away from the corner of a building?
Those ones ranged from £155k for a semidetached to £305k for the bigger houses. As with most places depending on the location the price will alter.
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think nhbc have a set min distance, but it really doesn't stop you designing in the mj and downpipes! Used to spend hours tidying these things up for housebuilders who clearly couldn't care less how terrible their product looked.... thank goodness I'm not involved in that stuff anymore!
Here's a good example of what the OP is trying to say.....
https://goo.gl/maps/hnoLASnDWNL2
That's a recent development that i dealt with. All of the plots have visible 'drain covers' for inspection into both the foul and surface water drainage before they reach the main road some on lawns, some in gravel and in one plot, on the earth where it hasn't been finished getting landscaped. By building regulation standards any manholes have to be located within the plot boundary so its quite frankly impossible for there to be no visible 'drain / drain covers' in his own house plot without the developer being breach of the regulations.
the ones on lawns don't look particularly good tbh... I can see why some homebuyers wouldn't be happy with them there - though obviously they have to put them somewhere
It's fixable though - http://www.ecogrid.co.uk/products/manhole-covers/
This is nothing more than standard practice and has been for decades and decades!!
This might help: https://www.lanesfordrains.co.uk/domestic/advice/homeowner-responsibility/drains-and-sewers/
This might help: https://www.lanesfordrains.co.uk/domestic/advice/homeowner-responsibility/drains-and-sewers/
Here's how it would be from the developer, one set of properties has drainage on their land, another doesn't:
These properties have surface drainage access opposite their property (square manhole covers): https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.9...4!1s9lPuDTEt5CkDfhS-_Wuc_w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
These properties have surface drainage access on the drive, going to underground tanks/soakaways (square manhole covers). Road gullies drain on to land owned by home owner: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.9...4!1s0rZYEqdAlVtD2EY0jsbeQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That development actually had an issue with this string of houses because the homeowners complained the drains were on their land,not sure what the outcome was but on google maps they were not moved: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.9...4!1scQWH_sCniTqok60xDBZgCw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
These properties have surface drainage access opposite their property (square manhole covers): https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.9...4!1s9lPuDTEt5CkDfhS-_Wuc_w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
These properties have surface drainage access on the drive, going to underground tanks/soakaways (square manhole covers). Road gullies drain on to land owned by home owner: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.9...4!1s0rZYEqdAlVtD2EY0jsbeQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That development actually had an issue with this string of houses because the homeowners complained the drains were on their land,not sure what the outcome was but on google maps they were not moved: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.9...4!1scQWH_sCniTqok60xDBZgCw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Made me laugh!
I bought a house from Persimmons 4 years ago and we have two of these drains out front either side of the path. Never bothered us at all. We covered them up with bark and put plants around. Unless you looked for them you wouldn't even know they were there. Neighbors have done similar things, some very creative actually.
Honestly, you have so many options available to you this is a non-issue. Although...did you not inspect the property before being handed the keys for things like this? I walked round every room checking every plug, light, all the carpets, doors and frames, windows and the whole garden and garage before 'taking delivery'. You could have raised this with Persimmons a long time ago. My experience with them was great and they even replaced my front door when it was out of warranty when something went wrong with it. Can't really fault.
The OP could ask the developer to remove all the surface water drains and he could build a huge soakaway in the back garden for all the surface water.
Could solve the foul drain issue by digging another big hole in the garden and using that to poop into?
This would not only solve the issue with the fowl drains no longer needed but he would also gain more rooms in the property as the toilets would no longer be required.
Failing that, could still remove fowl drains and toilets and just go to McDonalds and use theirs as they are open 24/7.
Its a win win situation!
Could solve the foul drain issue by digging another big hole in the garden and using that to poop into?
This would not only solve the issue with the fowl drains no longer needed but he would also gain more rooms in the property as the toilets would no longer be required.
Failing that, could still remove fowl drains and toilets and just go to McDonalds and use theirs as they are open 24/7.
Its a win win situation!