well while that is obviously sensible I can see why you'd just avoid wearing it completely... clip on ties are for homer simpson types
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well while that is obviously sensible I can see why you'd just avoid wearing it completely... clip on ties are for homer simpson types
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No clip on ties are for people who want to dress smartly but can remove it easy when required to do so when works required to be completed safely.
a tie isn't required to dress smartly - if you're going to wear one though at least wear a real one... there are relatively few safety concerns about wearing ties (save for prison, law enforcement, security) and if you absolutely need to take it off then just loosen the thing - you don't even have to fully untie it if for some bizarre reason you anticipate putting it on and off again frequently
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How is this different to a normal tie? It takes me about 4 seconds to tie up
Some people can't tie a tie. Yes I can before you say.
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Depends on what you mean by 'servers'. Any barely computer literate person could manage a Windows servers. The real 'IT Professionals' are the ones running the databases, the SANS and the networks.
OP. I've had to wear a tie in a job where I'd occasionally have to lift printers or go under desks (seems to be unavoidable in most IT jobs) and it never hurt me. Nor did I need to wear a clip on.
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You'd be surprised at the new and interesting ways the people that "do it themselves" find to screw it up.
Glad I'm out of industries which enforce tie wearing.
An outdated principle which serves no purpose. If I can sit in a business meeting with a customer discussing a multiple million pound contract, with a future impact on hundreds of millions/billions more without a tie in sight and most wearing jeans I find it insane that someone in an office must wear a tie.
Competence >>>> Appearance. Just a shame many businesses still class them as one and the same.
An outdated principle which serves no purpose. If I can sit in a business meeting with a customer discussing a multiple million pound contract, with a future impact on hundreds of millions/billions more without a tie in sight and most wearing jeans I find it insane that someone in an office must wear a tie.
Competence >>>> Appearance. Just a shame many businesses still class them as one and the same.
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I don't see much point in wearing a tie. I do think appearance is important though. There has to be some standard of dress.
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So you're a multi millionaire now?
Personally I'm of the opposite opinion. I'm not suggesting Bermuda shorts and wife beaters but sensible dress is hardly a deterrent to good work practice.
One of the most competent (in his field) and best operators I have ever worked with would turn up in ratty jeans and some dodgy old seamans looking sweater he insisted on wearing. Didn't stop him bring brilliant, getting most the better contracts and keeping them through a well working business.
It's the outdated concept of uniform (like a school) taking away the personality and expression to make everyone work and dress in a set way. It doesn't serve any purpose, I never worked any better when I used to work a tie. I would go as far as to say I work better being dressed comfortably (smart jeans, shirt open at the neck) and can relax and just get on with the job without worrying about confirming to some dress code or another.
One of the most competent (in his field) and best operators I have ever worked with would turn up in ratty jeans and some dodgy old seamans looking sweater he insisted on wearing. Didn't stop him bring brilliant, getting most the better contracts and keeping them through a well working business.
It's the outdated concept of uniform (like a school) taking away the personality and expression to make everyone work and dress in a set way. It doesn't serve any purpose, I never worked any better when I used to work a tie. I would go as far as to say I work better being dressed comfortably (smart jeans, shirt open at the neck) and can relax and just get on with the job without worrying about confirming to some dress code or another.
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No direct H&S legislation, although I expect your uniform policy says something along the lines of "wear clothing appropriate to the task, and project a professional image".
If you feel your tie is restrictive, then speak to HR.
P.s... http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2013/02...ecause-his-tie-deemed-health-and-safety-risk/
If you feel your tie is restrictive, then speak to HR.
P.s... http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2013/02...ecause-his-tie-deemed-health-and-safety-risk/
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My last company was very strict on the tie rule, I spent many years doing a role like you've described with a tie around my neck and I didn't die or injure myself.
So stop being a whiny whinge bag and get on with your job.
So stop being a whiny whinge bag and get on with your job.
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Depends on what you mean by 'servers'. Any barely computer literate person could manage a Windows servers. The real 'IT Professionals' are the ones running the databases, the SANS and the networks.
Well I don't disagree with that, I don't work in IT at all, but I do SQL work and programming (usually writing programs to circumvent the flaws in the expensive industry software my employers bought).
I'm also the honorary IT man, and people come to me before going to them because they know it will take 3 days to get anything done
.You'd be surprised at the new and interesting ways the people that "do it themselves" find to screw it up.
I should have added 'anyone under 40'
Today at work the man from IT came down to deliver a replacement monitor. He plonked it down and started talking to my manager. It's a second screen and thus requires a second gfx output on the PC. However I noticed the unit I had bought over for it didn't have one, so I tuned to them and said "This PC hasn't got a DisplayPort out so I'll use this one (we had a new spare PC already there) which is also XP (my employer recently switched to Windows 7 but some software will only run on XP, and this particular workstation needed it) but we'll need another DisplayPort to DVI adapter".
The IT guy looked at me and said "Well I can see you know what you're doing here" and walked off
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I work in a busy events driven hotel. I wear a shirt and tie, I often have to have a suit jacket on too. A big part of my job is heavy lifting including tables, sofas, barrels, boxes etc. I'm also responsible for a lot of the maintenance, and things tend to break and/or spring a leak when I'm in a nice ironed white shirt. 
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In short, I wish all I had to carry was printers.
.In short, I wish all I had to carry was printers.