Driver Jailed For Doing 192 mph !

What boggles my mind is that this poor man (silly or not)... has been JAILED... the dude has been imprisoned for over 2 years when he didn't hurt anybody at all.

All he did was drive to fast in a place where an arbitrary system has been introduced, NOT for safety... 70mph was introduced for fuel economy purposes, more than 40 years ago...

Not that long ago I did 176mph legally on a public dual-carriageway.

In germany, they certainly have better lane discipline at least... but they have similar maintenance issues for cars as Finglonga just tried to use as a silly argument...
 
nothing wrong with this a part from its illgal and that he was filming it. if it had been in germany on an autobahn nobody would care. don't really see why this is bad.

Because this is not Germany and not the autobahn. Justifying it because the car is physically capable of it whilst ignoring the environment is stupid; on a German autobahn, all drivers are aware that there are no speed limits and so are prepared and anticipate of the possibility of other cars bearing down on them at huge speeds. However, in the UK this isn't the case, and although a 70MPH limit might seem archaic, most of the driving population will not be expecting any other vehicles to be doing over 100MPH in excess of it. The speed differential alone makes this an incredibly stupid thing to do, notwithstanding the possible quality of the UK road network, or lack thereof compared to the autobahn.

Oh, and "nothing wrong with this apart from it's illegal and that he was filming it..." - so really, there was everything wrong with it, because anyone who would choose to drive at nearly 200MPH with one hand attempting to film the speedometer is an absolute moron not worthy of holding a licence.
 
Because back in the '60s, the government plucked the number 70 out of thin air and arbitrarily decided that that was the maximum speed it was possible to drive on a motorway or dual carriageway without killing someone. Since then, cars have become more safe, with shorter stopping distances, airbags, bonnets shaped so as to not shatter every bone in a pedestrian's body, you-name-it. The speed limit is still 70.

That said, one does have to question the wisdom of concentrating on filming a speedo while hurtling down the road at OMFG miles per hour. And then uploading the video to the Internet. And listening to such crap music. I'm not going to lose much sleep at the thought of this gentleman not being able to drive for a while.

Actually, the number was picked out of fuel economy concerns, not safety :)

But with respect to safety, you're right... a modern car, especially something like a GTR as this guy filmed himself driving, with modern rubber and ABS... can stop from 100-0 in a shorter time/distance than a 1960s car could stop from 70-0.

On the other hand, like you mention, this guy - knowing the speed limits and potentials for punishment - was a complete and utter idiot to film himself driving like this. His disqualification, I couldn't give two hoots about, although 10 years seems somewhat excessive.

I can't get my head around how some **** of a judge has taken away this mans freedom for over 2 years and stuck him in the same cage as people who murder and rape... :confused::confused::confused:

True.

UK should adjust speed limits for Dual carriage ways and motorways for sure but both a wet and dry speed limit.

Wet: 75mph
Dry: 95mph

At the same actively fine and issue points for those who sit in the outside holding others up and also those who tailgate.
Perfectly safe speeds in modern road worthy cars and of course you don't have to drive at the limit, extreme weather then of course much slower, just common sense really.

That seems some-what appropriate.

Although I would remove any dry maximum limit where the road suits it, like they do in Germany.

A wet maximum limit should be strictly enforced, however, as I've seen some real stupidity in those conditions...

What we need to improve upon is driver education... and re-education... we have people on the roads who learnt a different way of driving 40 years ago from what is acceptable today.
 
Because this is not Germany and not the autobahn. Justifying it because the car is physically capable of it whilst ignoring the environment is stupid; on a German autobahn, all drivers are aware that there are no speed limits and so are prepared and anticipate of the possibility of other cars bearing down on them at huge speeds. However, in the UK this isn't the case, and although a 70MPH limit might seem archaic, most of the driving population will not be expecting any other vehicles to be doing over 100MPH in excess of it. The speed differential alone makes this an incredibly stupid thing to do, notwithstanding the possible quality of the UK road network, or lack thereof compared to the autobahn.

Oh, and "nothing wrong with this apart from it's illegal and that he was filming it..." - so really, there was everything wrong with it, because anyone who would choose to drive at nearly 200MPH with one hand attempting to film the speedometer is an absolute moron not worthy of holding a licence.

Side note: most UK motorways are actually in better physical condition than most German autobahns...



Random note: Swiss roads (motorway or a/b/minor style) are by far the best I have come across... French back roads are worse than most third-world countries (the paid motorways are good)... German roads are mostly high quality, but not up to Swiss standards - back roads are marginally better than UK B-roads... Polish roads are better than you would expect and in-line with British roads, with the exception of large cities where they seem to magically learn from the French.
 
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I found French back roads to be of excellent quality (Dordogne, Lot regions). Smooth, few potholes or road joints, excellent markings.
 
I found French back roads to be of excellent quality (Dordogne, Lot regions). Smooth, few potholes or road joints, excellent markings.

I've spent over a year living here... they're worse than the roads in Turkey and that's going some ;)

One thing I much prefer in France is their use of traffic calming measures, in villages especially, rather than over-use of ineffective revenue generation systems (aka speed cameras). The money spent on cameras could be used to actually make the roads safer, rather than distracting drivers and causing worse traffic and safety issues.
 
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What I strongly object to is this type of preventative nanny-state ********...

He caused no harm (yes, he was stupid), but he didn't hurt anyone.

Losing 2.5 years out of your life is not fairly representative of that.

Rather than strict limits (other than perhaps wet conditions)... improve education and offer recommendations of best speeds to drive within the limits.

This kind of approach would stop people from spending too much time focusing on their speedometer and more focus/attention would be on the road, where it should be.

Should someone cause an accident and that accident be found to be directly related to them doing excessive speed, which would be easy to determine... then their penalty should be increased or share of the blame with the insurance company be increased, relative to the irresponsibility that they have shown in their choice of driving style.
 
What boggles my mind is that this poor man (silly or not)... has been JAILED... the dude has been imprisoned for over 2 years when he didn't hurt anybody at all.

All he did was drive to fast in a place where an arbitrary system has been introduced, NOT for safety... 70mph was introduced for fuel economy purposes, more than 40 years ago...

Not that long ago I did 176mph legally on a public dual-carriageway.

In germany, they certainly have better lane discipline at least... but they have similar maintenance issues for cars as Finglonga just tried to use as a silly argument...

He is, apparently, a drug dealer. I have zero sympathy for him, and suspect he will back behind the wheel of a car shortly after his release.
When does it stop, when he kills someone?
 
Because this is not Germany and not the autobahn. Justifying it because the car is physically capable of it whilst ignoring the environment is stupid; on a German autobahn, all drivers are aware that there are no speed limits and so are prepared and anticipate of the possibility of other cars bearing down on them at huge speeds. However, in the UK this isn't the case, and although a 70MPH limit might seem archaic, most of the driving population will not be expecting any other vehicles to be doing over 100MPH in excess of it. The speed differential alone makes this an incredibly stupid thing to do, notwithstanding the possible quality of the UK road network, or lack thereof compared to the autobahn.

Oh, and "nothing wrong with this apart from it's illegal and that he was filming it..." - so really, there was everything wrong with it, because anyone who would choose to drive at nearly 200MPH with one hand attempting to film the speedometer is an absolute moron not worthy of holding a licence.

Well said and just what i was about to write.
 
What drugs? Those laws are heavily out-of-date and not focused on the public interest.

It's only really heroin and bath salts that I object to...

He is, apparently, a drug dealer. I have zero sympathy for him, and suspect he will back behind the wheel of a car shortly after his release.
When does it stop, when he kills someone?

One offence is not, necessarily, related to the other.

That would be unfortunate... but over 2 years in jail without hurting someone is absolutely mental.

Rapists rarely spend more than 6 months in jail... who do you think is truly the bigger issue in society?

1. A person speeding in a couple of vehicles and causing no accidents
2. Someone who forces another person to have sex with them through improper use of drugs or violence?

You need to look at your priorities... I suggest that there is something seriously wrong in your head if you think that those priorities are correct and reasonable.

Your views are as out of focus as your photos. ;)

P.S. The driver is a convicted drug dealer. Karma's a bitch.

No... yours are... take a look at yourself in the mirror.
 
I'm perfectly happy with my reflection.

Nearly 200mph on an A-road with one hand on the wheel and the other holding a mobile phone? He'd be bang to rights for a due care and attention prosecution doing any speed, let alone nearly three times the speed limit with other traffic around.

The guy is a pillar of the community : http://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk...-dealer-caught-at-last-1-765440#axzz3qjqBPl6m
NOT.
 
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Why must people show off?

Had he kept these sessions to himself. He'd still be a free man
 
The sentence seems harsh but really it does make sense. He's going around bends at 190mph, 83 metres per second; if someone further ahead doing 70mph was trying to overtake, looked in the mirror and saw nothing, moved over into the right... a collision at that speed would still be like a stationary impact at 120mph, and someone would probably have died.
 
What I strongly object to is this type of preventative nanny-state ********...

He caused no harm (yes, he was stupid), but he didn't hurt anyone.

Losing 2.5 years out of your life is not fairly representative of that.

Rather than strict limits (other than perhaps wet conditions)... improve education and offer recommendations of best speeds to drive within the limits.

This kind of approach would stop people from spending too much time focusing on their speedometer and more focus/attention would be on the road, where it should be.

Should someone cause an accident and that accident be found to be directly related to them doing excessive speed, which would be easy to determine... then their penalty should be increased or share of the blame with the insurance company be increased, relative to the irresponsibility that they have shown in their choice of driving style.


Kind of agree with you.

He caused no harm what so ever... In some countries that speed is perfect legal. Would he be classed as stupid and or wreckless over there? Highly doubt it!
 
What drugs? Those laws are heavily out-of-date and not focused on the public interest.

It's only really heroin and bath salts that I object to...



One offence is not, necessarily, related to the other.

That would be unfortunate... but over 2 years in jail without hurting someone is absolutely mental.

Rapists rarely spend more than 6 months in jail... who do you think is truly the bigger issue in society?

1. A person speeding in a couple of vehicles and causing no accidents
2. Someone who forces another person to have sex with them through improper use of drugs or violence?

You need to look at your priorities... I suggest that there is something seriously wrong in your head if you think that those priorities are correct and reasonable.



No... yours are... take a look at yourself in the mirror.

Why do you keep bringing rape into it? :confused:

The "he didn't hurt anyone" view is utterly absurd. Should police and courts take that approach with drink-driving too?
 
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The "he didn't hurt anyone" view is utterly absurd. Should police and courts take that approach with drink-driving too?

That is exactly the approach they do take though. If you're caught drink driving via a normal traffic stop, you'll lose your licence for a few years. If you're caught drink driving as a result of having an accident and hurting someone, you'll likely be going to prison.
 
I can't condone 192mph on the road but to me to go to jail for this, seems ludicrous, when we often see suspended sentences issued for offences resulting in injury, or for crimes against the vulnerable, where there is an actual person that can be defined as a victim!

I could support longer driving bans and heavier fines for people convicted of the most serious speeding offences, but jailing somebody for this sort of things when nobody was injured and/or no property was damaged seems somewhat harsh to me given how the judicial system treats those convicted of other offences.
 
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