Driving a VW Transporter for short distances - how often before it kills the DPF?

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Detailed below is important information outlining the function and features of the DPF which all members of your team need to be aware of.

DPFs are becoming more commonplace on diesel engines, particularly sizes 2.0L upwards. This is in order to reduce the exhaust emissions as required by european legislation.

The prime reason for a DPF is to reduce particulate matter entering the atmosphere. Particulate matter is found in the form of soot, which is produced during diesel combustion. The DPF traps most of the soot which would normally travel down the exhaust and into the atmosphere. The DPF can hold a certain amount of soot, but not a huge quantity and therefore it needs to go through a process called ‘regeneration’ in order to clear the soot loading. When the soot goes through a ‘regeneration’ process it will be converted to a much smaller amount of ash. The ash is non-removable. There are two types of ‘regeneration’, passive and active.

During long motorway journeys, passive regeneration will occur. This needs no intervention from the engine control unit. Due to the raised exhaust temperatures on a long journey (temperatures between 350 and 500°C), the procedure occurs slowly and continuously across the catalytic-coated (with platinum) DPF. The catalytic-coated DPF is situated close to the engine, therefore the exhaust gas temperature is high enough (500°C) to ignite the soot particles. Due to this action, soot is burned-off and is converted into a smaller amount of ash.

Active ‘regeneration’ is when the ECU intervenes when the soot loading in the DPF is calculated to be 45%. The procedure lasts for about five to 10 minutes. Specific measures are taken by the ECU to raise the engine exhaust temperature to above 600°C, these include switching off the exhaust gas recirculation and increasing the fuel injection period to include a small injection after the main injection. The soot particles are oxidised at this temperature.

The ECU will trigger a regeneration process, if for some reason this is aborted, i.e. customer slows down, stops etc, the process will be resumed when regeneration conditions are once again met, above 60km/h (38mph). This will continue for 15 minutes.

If after two attempts of 15 minutes, a successful regeneration has not been possible, the loading will increase. At 50% soot loading, the ECU will continue to maintain maximum exhaust temperatures of 600°C to 650°C to cause a regeneration process. The system will try to run a regeneration process for 15 minutes. If unsuccessful, the system will repeat this process for a further 15 minutes, if still unsuccessful, the DPF light on the driver display panel will then be lit.

The owners handbook states that the DPF symbol (a yellow square with dots in it) lights up to indicate that the diesel particulate filter has become obstructed with soot due to frequent short trips. When the warning lamp comes on, the driver should drive at a constant speed of at least 60 km/h for about 10 minutes. As a result of the increase in temperature the soot in the filter will be burned off. If the DPF symbol does not go out, the driver should contact an authorised Volkswagen repairer and have the fault rectified. The yellow symbol changes to red.

At 55% soot loading the DPF light is lit on driver display panel. At this point the customer should follow the advice in the handbook. If they ignore this information and continue driving the vehicle until the soot loading reaches 75% without successful regeneration, additional warning lamps will light up. At this point the customer will also be complaining of lack of power, etc.

At 75% regeneration is still possible with the use of the VAS tester. Or by following the above VCDS insturction. Only when the loading is above 95%, is it necessary to replace the DPF unit.

Operating Status System Response

45% DPF Load Level 1 - Normal regeneration

50% DPF Load Level 2 - Regeneration at maximum exhaust temperatures

55% DPF Load DPF lamp and message ("See operating manual") - Regeneration from 60 km/h onwards

75% DPF Load DPF, SYS and MI lamp - Torque limitation, EGR deactivation, Regeneration via VAG or VCDS tester only

95% DPF Load - Replace the DPF Unit

The warranty department has confirmed that if there is no fault on the vehicle and DPF regeneration has been unsuccessful due to the customers driving style and the customers failure to comply with the instructions in the handbook, DPF replacement will not be paid for by warranty.

Common causes for customer complaint:

• Frequent short journeys – Regeneration conditions are not met.
Not recommended for sale in the Channel Islands and inner city driving.

• Customers who continue to drive the vehicle with DPF light on – continued
driving with the DPF light on and without successful regeneration results in
excessive soot loading of the DPF, to a point where it is above 95% loaded.
At this point regeneration is not an option and replacement of the DPF is
necessary.

• Fault 18434 particle filter bank 1 malfunction – common fault code. This does
not only relate to the DPF itself, but the entire exhaust gas handling system. This
can be caused by defective temperature sensors, pressure sensors, additive
system components (if applicable), poor connections, wiring issues, etc.

Important Information

• Before diagnosing a problem vehicle or attempting to perform an emergency
regeneration, it is important to obtain a full diagnostic log and read out relevant
measured value blocks. These MVB’s contain important information on the
condition of the DPF system and are essential in diagnosing the fault. When the
DPF light is illuminated, it does not necessarily mean that the DPF requires
regeneration. For further advice, please contact Technical Support with the
information from the diagnostic log and MVB data.

• If a problem vehicle arrives with the DPF light, the engine management light and
the emissions light on. If during your diagnosis and reading of relevant MVB’s,
you find that the soot loading exceeds 75% (but is still below 95%), an
emergency regeneration procedure must be performed with the VAS/VCDS tester.
Further to this, the customer needs to be educated. They need to understand
why the lights have appeared on the dash panel. Their attention needs to be
brought to the owners handbook instructions, so that they are aware of what the
DPF light means and what to do when it appears. This should prevent
unnecessary repeat visits for regeneration purposes.
I have also found that as the car gets older, some 30K+ miles, you will notice that the regeneration takes place more often.
ALWAYS, check your oil before any long journey, as DPF regeneration can use a fair bit of oil.

Some questions and answers that may help;
Question: The glow plug symbol is flashing. Why? What should be done?

Answer: The DPF regeneration has not been completed during normal driving and now DPF has reached its maximum saturation at which it can still be regenerated. The limit value depends on variant and Model Year, but is in the range of 105% - 125%. Possible causes for this are:
a.) Frequent short distance journeys, i.e. high soot loading while at the same time regeneration of the DPF does not take place because the conditions necessary were not fulfilled.
b.) Frequent interrupted regenerations, i.e. the engine was switched off during regeneration. Applies to short journey drivers who have at least fulfilled the conditions for triggering regeneration. If the glow plug light flashes, the vehicle

i.) Engine running since start for longer than two minutes.
ii.) Calculated saturation higher than 80%.
iii.) Coolant temperature over 70°C for at least two minutes.
iv.) No DPF-relevant faults stored in system.
v.) A defined vehicle speed threshold must have been exceeded (e.g. for greater than 80% loading, 100 km/h)


Question: Under what conditions is regeneration interrupted/ended once it has started?

Answer: Normally when regeneration has been successfully completed, or:
a.) After a maximum regeneration time (20 - 25 min.).
b.) If the engine is switched off or has stalled.
c.) If the engine is left idling for a long time (five - 10 min.).
d.) If 1000°C is detected by the exhaust temperature sensor.
e.) If during regeneration, a fault is detected on the components relevant for combustion (injection/intake system).
If a regeneration is interrupted once started but before it has been 50% completed, the glow plug lamp flashes on the next engine start (cold or hot) and regeneration begins again once the operating conditions (see iii) have been fulfilled.

Question: How long does complete regeneration take? a.) In the most favourable case? b.) In the least favourable case?

Answer: a.) Under constant conditions, i.e. the exhaust temperature necessary for regeneration always lies above the required value, for example during motorway/cross-country driving, the average regeneration time is 10 minutes.

b.) Vehicle conditions such as long down-hill descents, frequent driving in the low-load range (city driving, idling) allow the exhaust temperature to fall. If the conditions for triggering regeneration were fulfilled, the active regeneration time can be extended up to 25 minutes (depending on engine type). If complete regeneration is not possible within this period, the regeneration will be interrupted.

Question: How does regeneration affect the oil life?

Answer: On each regeneration or attempted regeneration, a certain diesel fuel amount is injected into the engine oil which reduces the oil life. If the "INSP" light in the instrument cluster comes on, the engine oil is exhausted and must be changed. Failure to do so could damage the engine.
 
Can you see why I’m struggling to decide what to do? Even in this thread it’s been 50/50 lol!

Regarding a ‘regen’ is this something triggered manually or automatically? How exactly does that work?
I had a diesel Range Rover and had no end of problems with the DPF due to my driving style - lots of short inner city trips. We have some wild temperature swings too which I dont think helped either, When driving above 80kmh it would automatically burn it off - as long as the fuel was above the reserve, wouldn't do it if the fuel warning light was on.
The DPF warning was random. Sometimes wouldn't happen for months and other times seemed to be every other week. As long as you got to a motorway to give it a run it was fine. How long you got from the initial warning until it turned limp and had to take it to a dealer again seemed random. Sometimes a few days and sometimes barely a couple of hours. There is actually a class action case against JLR here in Australia I am part of so hopefully get a few quid back in the next year or so but haven't pinned any hopes on it.
Only diesel I have ever owned and would never buy another, purely for this reason.
 
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I had a diesel Range Rover

Been a few complications with DPFs on Range Rovers including inability to perform active regen under normal conditions, etc. some of the worst intolerances for not driving long enough at a high enough speed/RPM off the top of my head out of any brand.
 
Not a Volkswagen, but my 2018 Volvo did not like short trips and would dump diesel into the oil after failed regens due to short trips. I personally wouldn't go diesel unless doing regular fast motorway journeys.
 
To be honest I would look for a petrol model (I'm guessing rather rare?), or look at something from Japan that been converted. Because in my experience if your asking this you already know it's not for you.
 
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Can you see why I’m struggling to decide what to do? Even in this thread it’s been 50/50 lol!

Regarding a ‘regen’ is this something triggered manually or automatically? How exactly does that work?

My wife drove out family wagon for work (3 x 1.5 mile commutes each day as she's part time) and we'd use it on weekends for longer trips.

The problem is, most DPF systems are beyond stupid.. they have no concept of what kind of journey you are about to do so just guess when to do an active regen, usually at the wrong time so get aborted..
Why they can't just pop up a message on the dash "The DPF will need to regenerate within the next 50 miles, please select 'regen now' if doing a journey of at least 30 minutes with average speeds over 50mph".. i.e. tell you it's needed and then let you trigger it accordingly..

Our previous Nissan X-Trail had one DPF issue that cleared with a forced regen at the dealers, but it was clear our driving pattern didn't suit it..
The BMW X3 x35d that replaced it however, I bought it specifically as I had Carly (App that can inspect/control the DPF) with the intent to monitor it and trigger a regen when needed.. ironically it just dealt with it, I checked about once every 6 weeks or so and we never had a single issue or any failed active regens, it just seemed to be better at knowing when to regen and the ash level was well within what would be expected for it's mileage.

So, if the VW has some diagnostics app you can get to inspect/control the DPF, then it's an option IMO, if not, I wouldn't risk it.

Take it out onto a Dual Carriageway/Motorway once a month and give it an "Italian Service". Sorted.
Why? That might passive regen a bit, but unless it decides that is the time to active regen, it might not, leaving you having done all those miles with low MPG just for nothing..
Having an App that can check the DPF and control it is a far better option and you are more likely to be able to manage it on your terms..

I had a diesel Range Rover and had no end of problems with the DPF due to my driving style - lots of short inner city trips. We have some wild temperature swings too which I dont think helped either, When driving above 80kmh it would automatically burn it off - as long as the fuel was above the reserve, wouldn't do it if the fuel warning light was on.
The DPF warning was random. Sometimes wouldn't happen for months and other times seemed to be every other week. As long as you got to a motorway to give it a run it was fine. How long you got from the initial warning until it turned limp and had to take it to a dealer again seemed random. Sometimes a few days and sometimes barely a couple of hours. There is actually a class action case against JLR here in Australia I am part of so hopefully get a few quid back in the next year or so but haven't pinned any hopes on it.
Only diesel I have ever owned and would never buy another, purely for this reason.
Any transverse mounted ingenium diesel in the JLR lineup has terrible issues, the DPF is too far from the engine to passively regen much and also more likely to then actively regen and fail..
I know someone that had all manner of issues with their Disco Sport diesel, using loads of ad-blue, then needed a forced regen at the dealers twice.. they sold it, got a BMW X3 2.0d and for the same driving pattern have had no issues.
As I said above, our X3 x35d using carly allowed me to check on the DPF but never needed to do anything, it just dealt with it..

I would buy a diesel for mix use if I can monitor it and therefore manage it if needed.. some diesels are hopeless at dealing with mixed usage, some are amazing..
 
If you do get one and use it for a lot of short journeys i'd want to have a very short oil change interval as when they start to do a regen and then abort it'll end up dumping some diesel into the sump which has lots of bad effects, it dilutes the oil which is obviously bad but will keep increasing the oil level which also can cause lots of issues.

So i'd say if you do keep a very close eye on your oil level as that'll give you a good indication of how many failed regens its done with how much its rising (that assumes that the engine isn't burning any oil which being a VW product it almost certainly will)
 
I've done some readings on other forums and some quick googling. Everything is doom and gloom and i'm going to kill the Van costing £1000's, hence my confusion! Could you explain soft regens? Is this where the car purposfully heats itself up when it starts to notice the DPF getting full? Do all of them have this feature now is it it only on certain year vans?

I'm not sure if it matters, but we're looking at T6/T6.1 (probably T6 due to price) with around 40k miles. Although if I sell my car, it'll probably be a newer T6.1.
Theres a lot more problems to worry about on a Euro6 T6/T6.1 than a DPF

Common Problems we see every week:

Flywheels (all models) rattling - £1000 Job
EGR Valves Leaking Coolant - £1200 Job
Inlet Manifolds Carbon up, seizing the swirl flaps - £1200 Job
Wiring Faults - £600+
 
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Detailed below is important information outlining the function and features of the DPF which all members of your team need to be aware of.

DPFs are becoming more commonplace on diesel engines, particularly sizes 2.0L upwards. This is in order to reduce the exhaust emissions as required by european legislation.

The prime reason for a DPF is to reduce particulate matter entering the atmosphere. Particulate matter is found in the form of soot, which is produced during diesel combustion. The DPF traps most of the soot which would normally travel down the exhaust and into the atmosphere. The DPF can hold a certain amount of soot, but not a huge quantity and therefore it needs to go through a process called ‘regeneration’ in order to clear the soot loading. When the soot goes through a ‘regeneration’ process it will be converted to a much smaller amount of ash. The ash is non-removable. There are two types of ‘regeneration’, passive and active.

During long motorway journeys, passive regeneration will occur. This needs no intervention from the engine control unit. Due to the raised exhaust temperatures on a long journey (temperatures between 350 and 500°C), the procedure occurs slowly and continuously across the catalytic-coated (with platinum) DPF. The catalytic-coated DPF is situated close to the engine, therefore the exhaust gas temperature is high enough (500°C) to ignite the soot particles. Due to this action, soot is burned-off and is converted into a smaller amount of ash.

Active ‘regeneration’ is when the ECU intervenes when the soot loading in the DPF is calculated to be 45%. The procedure lasts for about five to 10 minutes. Specific measures are taken by the ECU to raise the engine exhaust temperature to above 600°C, these include switching off the exhaust gas recirculation and increasing the fuel injection period to include a small injection after the main injection. The soot particles are oxidised at this temperature.

The ECU will trigger a regeneration process, if for some reason this is aborted, i.e. customer slows down, stops etc, the process will be resumed when regeneration conditions are once again met, above 60km/h (38mph). This will continue for 15 minutes.

If after two attempts of 15 minutes, a successful regeneration has not been possible, the loading will increase. At 50% soot loading, the ECU will continue to maintain maximum exhaust temperatures of 600°C to 650°C to cause a regeneration process. The system will try to run a regeneration process for 15 minutes. If unsuccessful, the system will repeat this process for a further 15 minutes, if still unsuccessful, the DPF light on the driver display panel will then be lit.

The owners handbook states that the DPF symbol (a yellow square with dots in it) lights up to indicate that the diesel particulate filter has become obstructed with soot due to frequent short trips. When the warning lamp comes on, the driver should drive at a constant speed of at least 60 km/h for about 10 minutes. As a result of the increase in temperature the soot in the filter will be burned off. If the DPF symbol does not go out, the driver should contact an authorised Volkswagen repairer and have the fault rectified. The yellow symbol changes to red.

At 55% soot loading the DPF light is lit on driver display panel. At this point the customer should follow the advice in the handbook. If they ignore this information and continue driving the vehicle until the soot loading reaches 75% without successful regeneration, additional warning lamps will light up. At this point the customer will also be complaining of lack of power, etc.

At 75% regeneration is still possible with the use of the VAS tester. Or by following the above VCDS insturction. Only when the loading is above 95%, is it necessary to replace the DPF unit.

Operating Status System Response

45% DPF Load Level 1 - Normal regeneration

50% DPF Load Level 2 - Regeneration at maximum exhaust temperatures

55% DPF Load DPF lamp and message ("See operating manual") - Regeneration from 60 km/h onwards

75% DPF Load DPF, SYS and MI lamp - Torque limitation, EGR deactivation, Regeneration via VAG or VCDS tester only

95% DPF Load - Replace the DPF Unit

The warranty department has confirmed that if there is no fault on the vehicle and DPF regeneration has been unsuccessful due to the customers driving style and the customers failure to comply with the instructions in the handbook, DPF replacement will not be paid for by warranty.

Common causes for customer complaint:

• Frequent short journeys – Regeneration conditions are not met.
Not recommended for sale in the Channel Islands and inner city driving.

• Customers who continue to drive the vehicle with DPF light on – continued
driving with the DPF light on and without successful regeneration results in
excessive soot loading of the DPF, to a point where it is above 95% loaded.
At this point regeneration is not an option and replacement of the DPF is
necessary.

• Fault 18434 particle filter bank 1 malfunction – common fault code. This does
not only relate to the DPF itself, but the entire exhaust gas handling system. This
can be caused by defective temperature sensors, pressure sensors, additive
system components (if applicable), poor connections, wiring issues, etc.

Important Information

• Before diagnosing a problem vehicle or attempting to perform an emergency
regeneration, it is important to obtain a full diagnostic log and read out relevant
measured value blocks. These MVB’s contain important information on the
condition of the DPF system and are essential in diagnosing the fault. When the
DPF light is illuminated, it does not necessarily mean that the DPF requires
regeneration. For further advice, please contact Technical Support with the
information from the diagnostic log and MVB data.

• If a problem vehicle arrives with the DPF light, the engine management light and
the emissions light on. If during your diagnosis and reading of relevant MVB’s,
you find that the soot loading exceeds 75% (but is still below 95%), an
emergency regeneration procedure must be performed with the VAS/VCDS tester.
Further to this, the customer needs to be educated. They need to understand
why the lights have appeared on the dash panel. Their attention needs to be
brought to the owners handbook instructions, so that they are aware of what the
DPF light means and what to do when it appears. This should prevent
unnecessary repeat visits for regeneration purposes.
I have also found that as the car gets older, some 30K+ miles, you will notice that the regeneration takes place more often.
ALWAYS, check your oil before any long journey, as DPF regeneration can use a fair bit of oil.

Some questions and answers that may help;
Question: The glow plug symbol is flashing. Why? What should be done?

Answer: The DPF regeneration has not been completed during normal driving and now DPF has reached its maximum saturation at which it can still be regenerated. The limit value depends on variant and Model Year, but is in the range of 105% - 125%. Possible causes for this are:
a.) Frequent short distance journeys, i.e. high soot loading while at the same time regeneration of the DPF does not take place because the conditions necessary were not fulfilled.
b.) Frequent interrupted regenerations, i.e. the engine was switched off during regeneration. Applies to short journey drivers who have at least fulfilled the conditions for triggering regeneration. If the glow plug light flashes, the vehicle

i.) Engine running since start for longer than two minutes.
ii.) Calculated saturation higher than 80%.
iii.) Coolant temperature over 70°C for at least two minutes.
iv.) No DPF-relevant faults stored in system.
v.) A defined vehicle speed threshold must have been exceeded (e.g. for greater than 80% loading, 100 km/h)


Question: Under what conditions is regeneration interrupted/ended once it has started?

Answer: Normally when regeneration has been successfully completed, or:
a.) After a maximum regeneration time (20 - 25 min.).
b.) If the engine is switched off or has stalled.
c.) If the engine is left idling for a long time (five - 10 min.).
d.) If 1000°C is detected by the exhaust temperature sensor.
e.) If during regeneration, a fault is detected on the components relevant for combustion (injection/intake system).
If a regeneration is interrupted once started but before it has been 50% completed, the glow plug lamp flashes on the next engine start (cold or hot) and regeneration begins again once the operating conditions (see iii) have been fulfilled.

Question: How long does complete regeneration take? a.) In the most favourable case? b.) In the least favourable case?

Answer: a.) Under constant conditions, i.e. the exhaust temperature necessary for regeneration always lies above the required value, for example during motorway/cross-country driving, the average regeneration time is 10 minutes.

b.) Vehicle conditions such as long down-hill descents, frequent driving in the low-load range (city driving, idling) allow the exhaust temperature to fall. If the conditions for triggering regeneration were fulfilled, the active regeneration time can be extended up to 25 minutes (depending on engine type). If complete regeneration is not possible within this period, the regeneration will be interrupted.

Question: How does regeneration affect the oil life?

Answer: On each regeneration or attempted regeneration, a certain diesel fuel amount is injected into the engine oil which reduces the oil life. If the "INSP" light in the instrument cluster comes on, the engine oil is exhausted and must be changed. Failure to do so could damage the engine.
That was an interesting helpful read thanks!

It would be getting plenty of longish drives on weekends with a few short journeys during the week.
 
Can you see why I’m struggling to decide what to do? Even in this thread it’s been 50/50 lol!

Regarding a ‘regen’ is this something triggered manually or automatically? How exactly does that work?

At the end of the day, it's diesel, its a high possibility something will go wrong, and it will cost money to repair it. Diesels tend to be a lot dearer than petrol equivalents to repair when they fail, they are more complicated which is why they fail more often, and they do fail more often.

It's just normal, no point in worrying about what ifs. If it breaks you fix it, if it doesn't you don't.

The VW TDI however is one of the more reliable diesel engines, much more so than ford, BMW, jlr etc, there is also an obscene amount of the engines sold so parts are relatively cheap compared to others.

If you want a transporter just get it and deal with whatever happens when/if it happens. You could spend years waiting for people to tell you what you want to hear to make the "right" decision
 
I would love to go back to my fabia SDI no dpf no egr no turbo I did over a quarter of a million miles with no engine problems, it didn't have the unit injectors just cheap ones running off a pump.
Yet 60 mpg, yeah I know emissions have moved on but still you didn't have to thrash the nads off it to keep it going
 
I would love to go back to my fabia SDI no dpf no egr no turbo I did over a quarter of a million miles with no engine problems, it didn't have the unit injectors just cheap ones running off a pump.
Yet 60 mpg, yeah I know emissions have moved on but still you didn't have to thrash the nads off it to keep it going

Yes it's electronics and emissions standards that have made diesels unreliable and expensive to fix.
 
Been a few complications with DPFs on Range Rovers including inability to perform active regen under normal conditions, etc. some of the worst intolerances for not driving long enough at a high enough speed/RPM off the top of my head out of any brand.

As said earlier I am not too hopeful but you never know, may get a bit of beer money out of it once the ambulance chasers have taken their cut. I sold the car over a year ago so don't have any past documentation for it. The only proof I have of what it cost me lies with the JLR main dealer who I assume won't be forthcoming with it. Court may well order them to though.
 
Take it out onto a Dual Carriageway/Motorway once a month and give it an "Italian Service". Sorted.

Once the engine and exhaust are up to temperature you want to be running at a sustained cruise. The last thing you want to be doing when trying to get the DPF cleared is drive in such a way that you are producing more soot.
 
Once the engine and exhaust are up to temperature you want to be running at a sustained cruise. The last thing you want to be doing when trying to get the DPF cleared is drive in such a way that you are producing more soot.

Yeah the manual often says something like drive X number of minutes at a steady 50MPH (and/or until the light turns off). Problem is in reality a lot of people don't have convenient access to roads where it is possible to do a proper regen - especially during day time traffic conditions these days. If I need to do it I have to go out of my way to hit a bit of dual-carriageway at night.
 
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