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It just seems douch-baggy.
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It just seems douch-baggy.
It's perfectly legal and tbh the douchebags are the ones sat in the line raging because they didn't think about do it.
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It's only an issue when you're causing the people who took the correct lane to slam on because youve cut them up, who in my case is what's happening every 2-3 cars. Double straight overs I think it's fair enough to use both lanes.
Pet hates. People not understanding how traffic light junctions work.
The red light applies to those entering the junction, not those in it. Once you pass the white line you should complete your manouver through the junction unless doing so would cause an accident.
Tonight on the way home I went through a green, but go stopped about 4/5 the way across the junction in the traffic. In the minute or so I was sat the traffic to my right moved off on their green. A 4x4 drives right up to my front wing and when the traffic moved he tried to force his way in. I seen it coming, but I moved forward anyway to see what he would do. He braked, then look up at the traffic lights as much to say, "Yours is red."
"That's not my light anymore mate and you are obliged to yield to traffic already on the carriageway."
But I let him in anyway, but cut the next women who tried the same off.
It's not the first time and it won't be the last. Again, the red light only applies to the white line legally defining the junction. Once past that you should complete your manuever thorugh the junction unless it would cause an accident.
In real world though if you are just over the line, you would wait with the red as it makes sense, but not when you are nearly through the junction. Waiting in the middle of junctions causes far more problems, like the fact I was physically blocking a whole other lane of traffic if I didn't move and the junction would have grid locked up.
EDIT: There is also confusion about repeater lights on the other side of the junction. Often you get lights at the line, but lights on the other side. These are repeater lights, they are for when you are first in the queue and can't see the light now beside you. They have been called into question for causing confusion before, but you are 100% allowed to EXIT a junction under a red. Obviously you need to be careful of pedestrian crossings, but it is perfectly acceptible to approach the crossing, wait on pedestrians and then proceed whether it's red or green.
The red light applies to those entering the junction, not those in it. Once you pass the white line you should complete your manouver through the junction unless doing so would cause an accident.
Tonight on the way home I went through a green, but go stopped about 4/5 the way across the junction in the traffic. In the minute or so I was sat the traffic to my right moved off on their green. A 4x4 drives right up to my front wing and when the traffic moved he tried to force his way in. I seen it coming, but I moved forward anyway to see what he would do. He braked, then look up at the traffic lights as much to say, "Yours is red."
"That's not my light anymore mate and you are obliged to yield to traffic already on the carriageway."
But I let him in anyway, but cut the next women who tried the same off.
It's not the first time and it won't be the last. Again, the red light only applies to the white line legally defining the junction. Once past that you should complete your manuever thorugh the junction unless it would cause an accident.
In real world though if you are just over the line, you would wait with the red as it makes sense, but not when you are nearly through the junction. Waiting in the middle of junctions causes far more problems, like the fact I was physically blocking a whole other lane of traffic if I didn't move and the junction would have grid locked up.
EDIT: There is also confusion about repeater lights on the other side of the junction. Often you get lights at the line, but lights on the other side. These are repeater lights, they are for when you are first in the queue and can't see the light now beside you. They have been called into question for causing confusion before, but you are 100% allowed to EXIT a junction under a red. Obviously you need to be careful of pedestrian crossings, but it is perfectly acceptible to approach the crossing, wait on pedestrians and then proceed whether it's red or green.
slight diversion - but in the list of drivers being distracted pet hates - you would be done for the below, wouldn't you ?
a quick screen grab from a BBC programme was just watching (car is being driven)
edit : afterthought .. and is the bbcfinanciallymorally bankrupt not to tell viewers this in end titles
a quick screen grab from a BBC programme was just watching (car is being driven)
edit : afterthought .. and is the bbc
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I hate people who don't stop for roundabouts. Thinking they can make it before you have entered. Only to start mouthing obscenities because they didn't and had to slam on whilst half on the roundabout. Morons.
Oh and when people turn right into a road and completely cut off the lane which is outgoing.... Nearly hit three cars today who just cut right over my lane..
Oh and when people turn right into a road and completely cut off the lane which is outgoing.... Nearly hit three cars today who just cut right over my lane..
Arguably the rule is to give way to traffic already on the roundabout. Giving way to traffic approaching the roundabout is a courtesy not a requirement.
Obviously this is more sensitive on mini-roundabouts.
i hate roundabouts because of that, you can't get on them as everyone and their mother is just bombing through it at 50mph like it's not even there, makes the whole point of the roundabout being there pointless
then you pull out and get screamed at to "give way to the right" lol
then you pull out and get screamed at to "give way to the right" lol
If myself and another vehicle are pretty much going to hit the RA at the same time and it's not large enough to both enter at the same time then I will stop and allow them to enter first but generally I only slow and prepare to stop only if necessary.
I had police knocking on my door last year because someone reported me "driving onto a RA like a lunatic and nearly causing an accident" - I showed them footage from dashcam. They thanked me and left.
Some of the Cambridge roundabouts have a 40mph limit;
but, for those inattentive folks dribbling onto the roundabout that will only have their front wheels onto the roundabout by the time the vehicle entering at 40mph from the previous entrance is colliding with their front wing, not sure how the insurance companies would attribute blame. ?
doubtful that dash-cams are sufficiently wide-angle to capture this either.
but, for those inattentive folks dribbling onto the roundabout that will only have their front wheels onto the roundabout by the time the vehicle entering at 40mph from the previous entrance is colliding with their front wing, not sure how the insurance companies would attribute blame. ?
doubtful that dash-cams are sufficiently wide-angle to capture this either.
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The person who has been hit as the had the high duty of care to ensure the roundabout was clear before pulling out. Oddly speed doesn't come into it
Annoying and dangerous....going around a roundabout on the inside lane and the car alongside you on the outside starts to swerve in making you hug the roundabout causing you to blare the horn.
They dont even realise you are there and swerve out again in panic
They dont even realise you are there and swerve out again in panic
It's due to the roundabout stupidity from other motorists even if there are lines clearly marked on the roundabout, and even then it's still debatable as I've had cars cut across in front of me where they don't follow the clearly painted lines and try to cut across. Generally on the roundabout I use frequently you can tell when they know they're in the wrong lane by their road positioning at the traffic lights before hand, but rather than signal that they want to get into the lane I'm in they cut across.
The one by me has two lanes entry, the road markings are that both lanes go right (exit 2), the left lane also has an exit to a petrol station (exit 1), there is a roundabout further up the road that I turn left at, so I choose the left lane, follow it round as per the lines on the road and it saves me having to change lanes. But quite often someone in the right lane will decide to cut across and take the first exit.
I do often wonder how people learn to drive so badly on roundabouts and it makes me think because of this they should all have lines painted to try and help the stupid (not that it always works as per above).
The one by me has two lanes entry, the road markings are that both lanes go right (exit 2), the left lane also has an exit to a petrol station (exit 1), there is a roundabout further up the road that I turn left at, so I choose the left lane, follow it round as per the lines on the road and it saves me having to change lanes. But quite often someone in the right lane will decide to cut across and take the first exit.
I do often wonder how people learn to drive so badly on roundabouts and it makes me think because of this they should all have lines painted to try and help the stupid (not that it always works as per above).
There's a RA near me. It has 4 exit including the one you start from.
Exit 1 is at 10 o'clock then exit 2 is at 2 o'clock and exit 3 at 4 o'clock.
The exit that always causes issues has 2 lanes, left signed and marked left only, right lane is marked right only.
The number of times I've had to brake on exiting at no2 because bellends use the left only to take 2nd exit is astounding.
I'm sure they're happy to settle outside of insurance in the event of a collision too, for all the damage you did to their car
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I remember having a brainfart and sat at one of those repeater lights for a minute or two till I realised that that light didn't really apply to me
as I had already passed through its predecessor at green.
Luckily no-one was behind me, nor did I block the junction.
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- People who don't understand how to use indicators, most of the time they just do not indicate. Other times they leave them on when they are not turning, which is probably MORE danagerous...
- 4x4 Drivers who believe they own the road.
- Tailgaters.
- 4x4 Drivers who believe they own the road.
- Tailgaters.