Drone hits passenger jet

RoboCod said:
This will be completely lost on him.

There's a certain inability of some people to realise that often other people actually do know better.
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Precisely.

Think in the last year we've been all over the county rescuing aircraft that have had landaways due to birdstrikes. Last one was so bad it smashed the leading edge of the wing in 3 places ripping a panel off.

Last one I was personally on hit the windscreen, entered the cockpit and we had to change the canopy as it has physically bent the metal and ended up inside.

And yes, a sparrow can kill an engine. Seen one fly down thw intake on a see off that ended up being an engine change But hey, what do I know.
 
Hopefully this doesn't set a precedent for enthusiasts and professionals.

Even modern gps drones can be overridden to fly around airports which is quite scary.

These idiots are going to ruin it for everyone.
 
itchy said:
BREAKING NEWS TODAY!!!

Fly hits car. :rolleyes:

Jet engines are designed to eat birds, yes a flock will cause trouble but a drone or single bird nope.
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Another missed point as usual just like amigafan, the drone shouldn't be there in the first place, or don't you understand that?
 
One take away from this that people seem to be missing is that the aircraft sustained no damage at all and was cleared for its next flight.
 
http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/drones/what-might-happen-if-airliner-hit-small-drone

I read this and found it interesting.

all in all, as a drone owner and hopefully soon business owner with Drones, I hope they find him/her and throw the book at them. I am all for drones above a certain size/cargo capacity being licenced like a car licence. I have just bought a Phantom 4 and the size of that in combination with the size of the battery, going through a jet engine, despite what I read above, would really concern me.
 
Werewolf said:
Actually there is a reason why any commercial airport takes any reports of anything on the runway seriously.

It doesn't take that much to damage an aircraft (they even have the lovely term "foreign object damage" to describe it), and something getting ingested by the engine at take off or landing (which is where drones are likely to be an issue) is the absolute worst time for anything to happen to the aircraft, because it's at that point that they tend to need the most power from the engines and there is the most already going on in the cockpit with the least time for the crew to react to anything.

Small bits of metal on the runway have caused all sorts of problems in the past when they've been sucked up into the engine, which is one of the reasons virtually every airport in the world has a regular routine to clear stuff off the runway, and will shut the runway down if there are reports of anything on it.


Anyone found operating a drone inside the limits of the airports airspace without permission, or in a manner that endangers aircraft should have the drones destroyed, themselves be banned from owning or operating drones and have the book thrown at them.
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The route cause of the Paris Concorde accident was FOD causing the tyre to shred and pierce the fuel tank with ballistic force.
 
amigafan2003 said:
I don't see why it would screw it up for everyone. If you drive at 150mph on the motorway and smash into loads of cars, do they ban driving?
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Bad analogy. If cars had just reached mass adoption and we didn't have speed limits on motorways, then yes, the first people to drive at 150mph might well be responsible for people bringing in speed limits for the first time. Legislation is nearly always reactive, not proactive.
 
what is going through these idiots minds as they fly it into the airspace of a major airport??

they cant be that far away when they pilot it, cant the airport security just pick them up on cctv and send the police?
 
adolf hamster said:
From what little drone flying i've done, theyre not as easy to point to a specific location as you'd think.
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When I've tried flying a drone, it didn't take me very long at all before I think I could comfortably move a drone in the flight path of a landing or taking off plane. Not with 100% reliability but reasonably doable. And if I'm aiming for the engines then the airflow will assist if I get close enough as well.
 
Said it before and i'll say it again. There needs to be new and widely announced regs on "drones". This will only get worse.

Maybe based on size, power etc.
 
Rossi~ said:
Said it before and i'll say it again. There needs to be new and widely announced regs on "drones". This will only get worse.

Maybe based on size, power etc.
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I Agree, I'm not sure it's right I can by a flying object from Argos with absolutely no legal consideration or documents signed etc...

What I don't understand is, Why did we never have this issue with RC planes...
Is it because the people who only them take things seriously and are generally not *****
 
FTM said:
what is going through these idiots minds as they fly it into the airspace of a major airport??

they cant be that far away when they pilot it, cant the airport security just pick them up on cctv and send the police?
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Some more advanced drones have 2-4 km range WITH first person goggles or a pad of some kind they can see what the drone sees.

It is amazing tech but if not regulated it will cause nightmares.
 
Eliot said:
I Agree, I'm not sure it's right I can by a flying object from Argos with absolutely no legal consideration or documents signed etc...

What I don't understand is, Why did we never have this issue with RC planes...
Is it because the people who only them take things seriously and are generally not *****
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Planes are much harder to fly and until relatively recently were very very expensive! Same with helicopters.
 
h4rm0ny said:
Bad analogy. If cars had just reached mass adoption and we didn't have speed limits on motorways, then yes, the first people to drive at 150mph might well be responsible for people bringing in speed limits for the first time. Legislation is nearly always reactive, not proactive.
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Which is actually what happened.

Originally the white circle with the black stripe meant "De-restricted" (IE No speed limit)

A combination of a series of multiple pileups contributed to the introduction of speed limits but I suspect the main motivator was the fact that the AC company used the new M1 as a 150MPH test track!

British Governments have always had a "You can't do that there ere" attitude sadly. :(
 
Orionaut said:
Which is actually what happened.

Originally the white circle with the black stripe meant "De-restricted" (IE No speed limit)

A combination of a series of multiple pileups contributed to the introduction of speed limits but I suspect the main motivator was the fact that the AC company used the new M1 as a 150MPH test track!

British Governments have always had a "You can't do that there ere" attitude sadly. :(
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And that was my point. Cars weren't banned, their use was just restricted. You can still do 150mph in a car perfectly legally if you abide by the usage restrictions.

Same will happen with drones. They won't be banned. You'll see the current regulations tightened up and policed better with heavier punishments.
 
Dis86 said:
Fixed it for you.

The irresponsible ones wont register.
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They should be made to register at purchase. Also, if they then sold the drone later, they should be made to register to new keeper like a car, then if they don't, responsiblity would still be with previous keeper if it was used irresponsibly, basically, just have a log book for every drone sold.
 
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