Drug testing in the office? Say what?

Hugogo said:
Remember that these drugs are illegal. They dont want employees who are at risk of being arrested and failing to turn up to do their job. Also the whole issue of embarresing the company or as previously mentioned blackmail.
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Conclusion: get a job in Holland and smoke as many reefers as you want.
 
Spawn said:
The problem being is that i dont think they really care what you do outside work as long as its not in your bloodstream therefore causing you to suffer the effects of the drugs the next day. As far as i know certain drugs can stay in the bloodstream for quite a bit of time even if you have stopped. Marajuana if i recall correctly can stay in the bloodstream for quite a few hrs, think its something like 8 hrs or more and thats after you have stopped inhaling it. But again i could be talking out of my ass as i cant really remember tbh:p.

Most probably this company is trying to limit the potential risk of drug taking and its effect on its workforce and their workload i think.
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It may be detectable in your bloodstream after 8 hours but is it at a level that can effect your work? I'll go with no.
 
malc30 said:
I have taken drugs of one sort or another all my life and i think its a good policy.
Most of the druggys i have known i certainly wouldn't want to employ and having a test on interview would make sure i don't get lumbered with one.
All those that take drugs hide behind normality but they are NOT normal they are incomplete beings who need a substance to be complete. I should know.

We should all be doing all we can to stop drug usage. Its detrimental to a productive society and needs to be controlled and eventually stamped out.
Drugs are Bad. Period.
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That's not true. Many people who take drug recreationally can do their job perfectly well and I doubt you would ever know they took drugs. You completely discount the social benefit drugs can have. Not all people that take drugs are "druggies" and you can only speak for yourself really.

I would say there are far more people in full time employment in this country that take drugs of one type or another than not. It's drug dependency that's bad not taking drugs of any kind ever.
 
fatiain said:
It may be detectable in your bloodstream after 8 hours but is it at a level that can effect your work? I'll go with no.
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Well seeing as i have smoked it quite regularly when i was young and dumb, i found that i couldnt sleep or at least get a good nights sleep, which in turn meant that i would sleep in late and generally be in a lethargic mood ie not really willing to do anything. But i also found that to be the case with the friends that i used to smoke it with, we all agreed that it made us lazy and lethargic even after the day we smoked it.

Ill be honest i have tried smoking the night before i go to work and yes it does affect my ability to do any sort of decent work. In a way i testing the theory that taking drugs can have an effect on you even the next day.

You go with no and ill go with yes, i have firsthand experience of this but i no longer do it as i need to concentrate on my work and plus i have passed that rebellious stage where i tried mostly anything and everything but excluding the hard drugs ie cocaine and heroin....never appealed to me in the slightest tbh. Plus ive seen the effects of those 2 drugs on a few of my mates and its not nice when they are begging for another snort or hit but havent got the money to buy any to feed their habit.
 
Carzy said:
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I have not got the inclination to type if you cannot read what i previously wrote correctly.
Mis quoted but you carry on mate.


Also Stretch of course i am speaking for myself who else would i speak for ffs.
Its just my opinion.
 
Stretch said:
That's not true. Many people who take drug recreationally can do their job perfectly well and I doubt you would ever know they took drugs. You completely discount the social benefit drugs can have. Not all people that take drugs are "druggies" and you can only speak for yourself really.

I would say there are far more people in full time employment in this country that take drugs of one type or another than not. It's drug dependency that's bad not taking drugs of any kind ever.
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I disagree with you there, they may be able to do their work perfectly well but over a longer period of time their work rate does suffer...not only that taking drugs also shows through your eyes ie for instance having a spliff makes you very tired, hungry and thirsty...i can tell if someones been smoking it just be looking at their eyes...it shows quite blatantly imho...redness and the eyelids becoming lazy over time.
 
happens in the UK, I hd to have a drugs and health test to get the job, and can be randlomly tested whenever. But No one ever has been randomly tested.
 
Spawn said:
I disagree with you there, they may be able to do their work perfectly well but over a longer period of time their work rate does suffer...not only that taking drugs also shows through your eyes ie for instance having a spliff makes you very tired, hungry and thirsty...i can tell if someones been smoking it just be looking at their eyes...it shows quite blatantly imho...redness and the eyelids becoming lazy over time.
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If you smoke at work then it bound to affect your productivity and yes people would notice. But that's not what I'm talking about. If you have a spiff at the weekend do you seriously think your work is going to suffer in the week? Absolutely no way, it's not possible.

If you smoke all day every day then yes it will affect your life. But then you would be dependant on it. This is why I say its drug dependency that's bad, not taking drugs recreationally.
 
malc30 said:
Drugs are Bad. Period.
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It varies. Lot's of factors determine if it's bad for a person to use drugs such as persons mental state, tolerance, personality etc.

I have experimented with drugs most of my life and when people say "drugs are bad blah blah" it comes accross as ignorance and misinformation to most recreational drug users.

Drugs are good, it's the people that abuse them that gives recrational drug use their stigma.
 
-AnthraX- said:
It varies. Lot's of factors determine if it's bad for a person to use drugs such as persons mental state, tolerance, personality etc.

I have experimented with drugs most of my life and when people say "drugs are bad blah blah" it comes accross as ignorance and misinformation to most recreational drug users.

Drugs are good, it's the people that abuse them that gives recrational drug use their stigma.
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Trust me mate i am neither ignorant or misinformed. You will learn in time.
 
wyrdo said:
Happens a lot in the US I'm afraid and as they're a US run company I guess the same applies to their offices here.

I'd just take the test if you've got nothing to be worried about and want the job.
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UK (EU?) Law protects the employees in the UK from having drug tests.

I work for a US company in the UK and the rest of the world has manditory drugs tests and the employees have to agree in the annual terms and conditions agreement (which you have to accept) that they are open to this. The UK employees however are completly exempt from this practice. (and it says so in the T&C documents)
 
Taking these drugs is illegal. So it is understandable that a company would want to do drug testing. So as to prevent any connection what so ever with any illegal activities. If you progress to quite a high position in the company and then get in trouble with the law regarding drugs it would damage their reputation. Therefore damaging the bussiness.

Also the question as to whether drug taking affects your performance at work. It is totally dependent on the individual. Personally I used to smoke a lot and it definately affected my work. On the other hand I know people who used to excell at what they do, even though they took drugs.
 
Stretch said:
Some people do come off badly by experimenting with drugs but it’s a small minority. Obviously you were unable to control your consumption.
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Thats very presumptous of you but my own opinion of drugs has been tainted by losing Lots of friends and loved ones to them. Whether it be in there drug money orientated lifestyle or just the unsociable states they get in to.
Waking up with a mate dead next to you is no laughing matter. My mates 4 year old son finding his dad dead in the bath is no laughing matter.
Seeing the majority of my friends spending most of there money on drugs of one kind or another.
I could go on forever but i feel my time is wasted here.

I will leave you with this.
I have a tattoo on my left hand which all 9 of us got when we were 14. I am the only one left alive. 5 dead through drugs and drug related crime killed the others.
In the last 10 years of me being in the midlands i have lost 9 friends. YES 9.
 
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