DS4 help, bad performance with e6600. getting desperate

SameSuspect

SameSuspect

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Iv recently got a new pc setup because i was getting poor performance in bf2142, i went from a a64 3700 to a conroe e6600. And yes im still getting really bad performance in 2142 with everything set medium. This is getting seriously ridiculous, iv spent well over 1000 now trying to get a gaming pc to play these games smoothly so i can enjoy myself when im at home.

Corsair HX 620W
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA_965P_DS4
Intel Core 2 DUO E6600
Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4
Connect3D x1900xt 512mb
2x 80gb wd sata drives in raid 0 (using the gigabyte controller) (OS)
1x IDE 40gb (Music)
x-fi xtreme music
Sony DVD-RW
floppy drive

i also have CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E), CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2), CPU EIST Function disabled.

My problem is a number of things. Main one is i cant play 2142 in medium settings smoothly with a constant fps of above 60.

Another prob i got is the poor performance i get in windows. Its fast, but still messes up at times, like today when i was transfering files from my 40gb drive to my raid setup... It stopped responding. And generaly keeps freezing up for a thew seconds ect..

And another prob is my core temps are idling at 58/57... believe it or not..

the only thing i havnt upgraded is the hdd's. EVERYTHING else i have now upgraded because of this issue.
 
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yes but my pc displayed a blue screen of death just after installing the f6 preinstall drivers for the xp installation. tried about 5 times.
 
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ok, Vcore needs to be at stock
you need to make sure your CPU cooling isn't being altered in bios etc, what cooler have you got on there? also make sure you've not got that perfromance thing going on where it talks about changing frequencys depending on what level of load your systems under. make sure your ram has enough volts, DS4 has 1.8v standard and some DDR2 needs 2.1-2.2 etc and also set the right timings on them
also when you go into BIOS press CTRL+F1 (iirc) to get the advanced menus in that overclocking bit. check EVERYTHING there, ie ram speed etc
 
If your getting 58ºC at idle, what are you getting while playing BF2142?

You don't mention if the CPU is overclocked at all (why increase the voltage if it's not?).

I'd take a good look at your heatsink and it's contact with the CPU before doing anything else.
 
its deffenetly attached securly. and im using the stock cooler as my ninja i bought had a bent bracket and a worn clip so it wouldnt connect to the mobo properly.
 
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SameSuspect said:
its deffenetly attached securly. and im using the stock cooler as my ninja i bought had a bent bracket and a worn clip so it wouldnt connect to the mobo properly.
Click to expand...

Still check it.

Also, you can use a clip from the default cooler on the Ninja as they are the same.
 
:D nice one thanx for that

how do you change the voltage on the ds4? because the ctrl+f1 (cpu v control or soemthing) Isnt doing its job, even if i change that setting to its lowest possible, it stays high

at the moment, cpuz is telling me its at 1.296, then it switches to 1.280 for a second and goes back to 1.296 is this normal??
 
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The actual voltage is often lower than the set voltage. Called 'voltage droop'.

Why are you actually messing with voltages? What are you trying to achieve?

Set the system to defaults and leave it like that until you can find your problem, if you have one.
 
im trying to achive lower/normal temps so i can overclock. and im trying to work out which of my components is faulty (if any). And most of all im trying to work out whats causing 2142 to play at a bad fps.
 
when i lower the cpu v in bios from 1.325 (1.296 in cpuz) to 1.200. In windows it shows it as 1.213 and the cpu core temps have gone up from roughly 55 to 71/68

so i lower the cpu core v from 1.325 to 1.200 and temps fly up 15C

doesnt make sense does it
 
please can someone help me because im totaly stuck and getting really unhappy with all this. I dont know what to do.

I thought i knew a lot about building pc's, but from day 1 iv been having problems that others dont get.
 
In the bios, set the CPU Ratio to either Auto or 9x.
Set the CPU Host Clock Control to Auto.
Set the PCI Express frequency to Auto.
Set the System Memory Multiplier to 3x
Set the Dimm OverVoltage Control to +0.3000v
Set the PCI-E, (G)MCH, FSb and CPU all to AUTO.

Use the Control/F1 trick to set your memory to 4-4-4-12.

Turn off the CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E), CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) and CPU EIST Functions but leave them alone after that.

Consider setting the fan control to Legacy & PWM or Disabled.

Once you have set these, leave them all alone until you have fully tested the system in its current configuration.

This should give you a CPU speed of 2.4GHz.
Memory speed of 800MHz @ 2.1v.
Everything at default speeds and voltages.

Now boot into Windows and pick 1 program to monitor your voltage and 1 to monitor the temps. This can be 1 program that does them both if you like.

Uninstall any motherboard drivers you've installed and then reinstall the latest motherboard drivers from Intel. The .inf and hard drive controllers ones will do. Download and install the latest JMicron SATA drivers too.
Consider removing and then reinstalling your ATI drivers. Restart when asked between drivers.

Use the computer and run a few programs to test and record the overall system performance. Don't try to alter any settings while you are doing this.
Forget about BF2142 for the moment.

Try CPU-Z to confirm the CPU and memory speed.
Maybe an 8M SuperPi run to get a reference time.
A default run of something like 3DMark '06.
Keep an eye on your core temps while doing this.

Let us know the results.
 
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Make shure all your drivers are the right ones. Then clear the cmos, then install @BIOS off the gigabyte disc that comes with your motherboard or download @BIOS from the gigabyte website. Flash your bios to the latest version. Also make shure your not jumping from IE f2 version of bios to f7 version of bios. Do it like this from f2 go to f4 from f4 to f6 then f6 to f7. Download latest bios off gigabyte website. Then download a program called coretemp (google it) this will give you a pretty accurate reading of your cpu temp of both cores. Then download orthos and run this for a few hours to make shure your system is stable, monitor temps aswell. Also if your on the stock cooler dont expect to get good temps ect. If your temps dont get better with another cooler then you might have a bad chip. Also install easytune and go to PC health then hardware monitor and check what speed your fan is running at. If you follow these steps and your pc keeps cutting out ect then you may have a fualty motherboard or ram :(.
 
All the above were already set. But now i reseated all the components and tidied up all my cables which did improve airflow, decreasing my core temps to 45-50 on both cores (idle) 62-60 load (intel tat and everest)

superpi 1mb test - 21s
superpi 8mb test - 4m 10s

in 3dmark, half way through graphics test 3 which is dragon flight.. the graphics get distorted ( as seen below) , but still runs.
It also does it on the last test which is deep freeze. I didnt bother collecteing the score so i aborted. I ran this 2 or 3 times and the distortion starts in the exactly the same place
i noticed you cant disable the robust graphics booster (or whatever its called) in bios so i set it from auto to fast, i thought auto was putting it in turbo or something.
anyway that didnt work. I havnt got my gc overclocked unless im missing somehting in bios.. i dont think its a temp problem because it starts in the exactly the same place each test.

so i downloaded att and ran the 3d renderer whilst watching temps and their max increase were 70c (gpu) and 57c (Vrm) without artifacts.
Also whilst watchin the renderer (the blue spinning spaceship looking thing) I noticed hitching/stuttering which is what i get in games, which f'ing anoys me so much. (number 1 pissoff)

Anyway i will download 3dmark06 again to see if maybe the installation was bad or something and give it another go. Although i cant see why a bad installation of this programme would cause the artifacts as seen in the pics.


my cpu fan runs at 1692

voltage values are the following

cpu core - 1.28v / 1.30v
+3.3v - 3.30v
+12v 11.58
+5v - 5.05
DIMM - 2.11

the overclocking/voltage window in ati tray tools shows me the following:

Current gpu voltage - 1.2000

current memory voltage - 2.0861

I dont think these voltages change because overdrive isnt turned on.

 
update your bios first, and as i said the stock coolers are nothing special. If your low on cash get a arctic cooler pro7 and some as5.
 
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