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Dual core for gaming?

what the **** are you talking about man, just stop talking. i mean...

I thought that was dual cpu's not dual core cpu's?
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is it me or are you not making sense at all? stick to the basics here.

2x 3800 dual core = 2x 3200 single core, using game on 1 core is like using a 3200 but better due to all other programs on the other core. overall for games at the minute get/stick with a single core and overclock it. as well as having 2gb ram n good gfx card, as sed above by someone.

FULLY star your swearing.

Otacon
 
The Old Man said:
Ok slight confusion, I didn't mean Windows XP didn't support dual core CPU's but apparently as they weren't designed for dual core and none were around at the time a bug is present in the operating system. I'll dig out my copy of PCF and try and quote it accurately.
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I see, I don't know anything about that, would be good if you can find that info :)
 
The Old Man said:
Ok slight confusion, I didn't mean Windows XP didn't support dual core CPU's but apparently as they weren't designed for dual core and none were around at the time a bug is present in the operating system. I'll dig out my copy of PCF and try and quote it accurately.
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again thats not true, since NT4 microsoft has had multi CPU support, this contuinue to windows 2000 and since Windows XP uses a modified Windows 2000 kernel it was designed with duel core in mind

Stelly
 
This is also affected by licensing. From MS site...

Q. How does this licensing policy affect products such as Microsoft Windows XP Professional?

A. Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Windows XP Home are not affected by this policy as they are licensed per installation and not per processor. Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors regardless of the number of cores on the processor. Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor.

Frequently asked questions about Windows XP Professional x64 Edition


Almost the same, but Windows is actually licensed per socket, not per core. So, even though Windows XP Professional x64 Edition is limited to only two processors, it will see the two dual core processors as two processors for licensing purposes, and four processors for running Windows.

To run more cores, you need server edition, and seeing XP is a spin off of that I would say it was designed to run multiple cores.
I'd like to see where it says it wasn't.
 
split said:
This is also affected by licensing. From MS site...

Q. How does this licensing policy affect products such as Microsoft Windows XP Professional?

A. Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Windows XP Home are not affected by this policy as they are licensed per installation and not per processor. Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors regardless of the number of cores on the processor. Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor.

Frequently asked questions about Windows XP Professional x64 Edition


Almost the same, but Windows is actually licensed per socket, not per core. So, even though Windows XP Professional x64 Edition is limited to only two processors, it will see the two dual core processors as two processors for licensing purposes, and four processors for running Windows.

To run more cores, you need server edition, and seeing XP is a spin off of that I would say it was designed to run multiple cores.
I'd like to see where it says it wasn't.
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So does this mean that if Intel bring out quad core windows XP will still run it??

Stelly
 
See MS FAQs.

Q. What is a "processor"?

A. A physical processor is a single chip that houses a collection of one or more cores. A core is a collection of one or more processor threads and a set of shared execution resources. A processor thread is the architectural state within a processor that tracks execution of a software program thread/task.

It was also debated here.
 
Yes, XP Pro will definalty run a quad core processor, with all 4 cores active. You can already 'simulate' this by using a P4D 955/965 (extreme edition), 2 physical cores, + 2 virtual cores. XP shows all 4 as separate processors.

Pretty sure that even XP Home recognises all 4 cores. Should be no different once the real quad core processors come out.

As for bugs in windows, I think its more a compatibility issue, more people with amd dual cores were having problems with Everquest2, than people with Intel Pentium 'D's. Pretty sure the AMD 'patch' is just an updated driver, and Im not sure it would be a great idea to try and run it on an intel cpu system.
 
I've been looking at the X2 4600, £200 notes before delivery. I'm very very tempted.
Thing is, I have a clawhammer FX55.
I'm thinking of ordering the X2, checking it works then keeping it either to go in my backup pc/possible htpc or waiting till games can take advantage of it. I've looked at the cpu comparison chart on toms hardware and for gaming at the mo my FX55 out does the X2 in gaming which is my main use, others being ripping and encoding my cd's or ripping the odd film onto the hard drive and converting it.

For the price it seems too good to pass up. :confused:
 
deadeyedic30 said:
I've been looking at the X2 4600, £200 notes before delivery. I'm very very tempted.
Thing is, I have a clawhammer FX55.
I'm thinking of ordering the X2, checking it works then keeping it either to go in my backup pc/possible htpc or waiting till games can take advantage of it. I've looked at the cpu comparison chart on toms hardware and for gaming at the mo my FX55 out does the X2 in gaming which is my main use, others being ripping and encoding my cd's or ripping the odd film onto the hard drive and converting it.

For the price it seems too good to pass up. :confused:
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I agree it is a tempting offer!

Stelly
 
Microsoft have admitted that the xp kenel could do with a lot of improving with regards to multi-processors.. they even said that VISTA would not include any enhancements over XP, but the next OS after that will !!
 
Dimension said:
Microsoft have admitted that the xp kenel could do with a lot of improving with regards to multi-processors.. they even said that VISTA would not include any enhancements over XP, but the next OS after that will !!
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but that does not mean that it was not built with Multi processors in mind :p

Stelly :)
 
taz488 said:
what the **** are you talking about man, just stop talking. i mean... is it me or are you not making sense at all?
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His post seemed fairly straight forward to me, he was suggesting that while XP supported multiple CPUs there was a bug specific to dual-core. Dual core and dual CPU are not the same thing. Dual CPU means two seperate physical processors going in two sockets. Dual core is a single CPU with two cores.

I don't know whether he's right, windows may well see both dual-cpu and dual-core in exactly the same way, but his post did make sense and your reaction was a little offensive, unnecessarily so. He also has a source for his info, so he may well be right.
 
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killer_uk said:
You clocking that CPU yet Stelly?
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*sighs* I got it all setup and everything... watercooling ready, then the gf called and said that she wanted to spend sometime after work, so I had 15 minutes to get ready and meet her.

So I'm now in work clock watching so that I can get some and overclock that chip to it squeels :) but untill them I'm on here passing the time! :)

Stelly
 
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