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Dual Xeon 5080's will blow Conroe Away

Flanno said:
On Fritz's Chess Benchmark I get
19.89 / 9254 - everything at stock.
If was able to overclock the cpu's I am sure I would get another couple of thousand :)

<edit>About 16k on the nuclearMC score...was running bitcommet and doing a virusscan at the time :) </edit>
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post your screenies in the respective threads ;)

good scores :)

edit: try pcmark 05, if you dont mind.
 
Hey,
It didn't detect my cpu, chipset or memory. Said it was too new !!
Weird...anyway I just ran the benchmark and it got only around 90.
Was expecting a bit higher.

What cpu's are you running cause your quad core setup seems to be a nice bit quicker then mine.
 
Hey Flanno, I have a Dell 490 too, but it has 2 x Dempsey @ 3.2ghz (5060s) and 2 x 2GB DDR2 memory modules. My benchmark scores are nowhere near yours though (around 30 FPS in s/w render test) !

I've just done a test in Sisoft Sandra and my Memory Bandwidth score is 1641MB/sec so I guess that's the reason :(
 
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Flanno said:
Hey,

What cpu's are you running cause your quad core setup seems to be a nice bit quicker then mine.
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hes running kentsfield wich is out shortly (novemeber)
and will make dual setups redundant @ least for the desktop users.
 
james32 said:
and will make dual setups redundant @ least for the desktop users.
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Doubtful, as last time I checked most games were not SMP-aware, neither were most programs the average desktop users runs on a day-to-day basis.

The 'Alan Wake' demo provided above is impressive, but a bit out of context as the developers confess the Kensfield system had been brutalised by over 1GHz to 3.73GHz, so it's not a real reflection of how the game will run in the real world. The system probably has an optimised implementation of Quad SLi running in there, too, so all in all the video probably shows a £3/4000 system running the game. How many of us have such a system? Anybody? Bar the professional IT bods claiming their work computers?

Until that game comes out and benches poorly on a Core 2 Duo at 3.73GHz, it will be difficult to convince me that 4 > 2 for the vast majority of us. I am more than ready to eat my words, however. Progress is progress, regardless of how it's dressed up.
 
I actually think 4 cores helps in gaming on my setup over having 2 indepenent fsb's. Oblivion, COD2, and Quake4 definitely play quicker as they support multiple threads, which I suppose is split across all the cores.
 
Yeah...my memory bandwidth isnt great either...around 6000MB/sec. Was epxeting more over the 1333fsb. The latency on FB-Dimms is supposed to suck though. I have 4x2gig modules which are 5,5,5,15. Still 4 sticks is supposed to be the sweetspot on the 5000x chipset as you get ok latency with decent bandwidth. To be honest, everything I throw at it works fine and no problem in gaming at 1680, although I still play Oblivion at 1280.

MSPenguin said:
Hey Flanno, I have a Dell 490 too, but it has 2 x Dempsey @ 3.2ghz (5060s) and 2 x 2GB DDR2 memory modules. My benchmark scores are nowhere near yours though (around 30 FPS in s/w render test) !

I've just done a test in Sisoft Sandra and my Memory Bandwidth score is 1641MB/sec so I guess that's the reason :(
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Flanno said:
Yeah...my memory bandwidth isnt great either...around 6000MB/sec. Was epxeting more over the 1333fsb. The latency on FB-Dimms is supposed to suck though. I have 4x2gig modules which are 5,5,5,15. Still 4 sticks is supposed to be the sweetspot on the 5000x chipset as you get ok latency with decent bandwidth. To be honest, everything I throw at it works fine and no problem in gaming at 1680, although I still play Oblivion at 1280.
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Wow, 6000 is a lot more than my 1600 :eek: In fact it's so much better I decided to play around with my memory. If I move the second DIMM into slot 5 so that the PC runs in single channel mode then my bandwidth *increases* up to 2800 MB/sec. If I take out the second DIMM so I just have 1 x 2GB in there, then bandwidth drops to 1800 MB/sec. Something weird going on here !

Having said all that, the performance is great compared to my previous machines. I don't see anything like the slow-down when doing more than one thing at a time.

Just need to work out what GFX card to get now, either a 1900XTX or possibly a 7950GX2. Shame these machines don't have SLI slots :(
 
Get the GX2.
I had a 1900xt-x and part exchanged it for a GX2.
It runs perfectly in the 490. Was worried about whether it would even detect it. Also the 5000x chipset seems to work well with overclocking the GX2. I have the Gigabyte version which is stock 500/600 and am running at 605/785. Getting over 10,700 in 3dmark06. Only minus is the card runs idle at around 63 and can get into the mid 70's under load whether overclocked or not. Also with the 2 cpu's, card, and both hard drives I noticed my 750w psu in the 490 does tend to make a bit of a buzzing noise. As if the 3 dedicated fans for the mobo, memory and cpu were not bad enough :)

Quick question - did you add any additional rear 80mm fans to your 490. There is room for 2. Am wondering if it is worth it as all they would do is help extract cpu heat. And those Woodcrest don't give off much in the first place.
 
I don't have any additional fans in there at the moment, but I have some Papst 80mm ones from my old machine I could rig up in there I guess. Temps don't seem to be a problem for me yet, but once I stick a decent GFX card I'm sure it will get very hot in there :) That reminds me, I should download MBM and install it now !

Overall the benchmarks seem quite low compared to what I was expecting, but day-today performance is fantastic with the 8 "processors" all enabled. I'd love to get some of these Core Duo chips on a decent motherboard and see just how fast they can go.
 
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