Due an upgrade (androids plz!)

[Kmodo]

For me the worrying factor is how Android phones seem to drop in price, i sold my Galaxy S for £370 3 weeks ago and got the I4, now you can pick a GS up for £300 mark what will it be worth in a month.

You only have to look at the Xperia X10 very expensive phone when it came out and now can be had for just over £200 on the bay.

Worrying how? The desire and the galaxy you could get for about £300 from o2 VERY early on, so selling them on in a year does not really incur huge losses. The same goes for some of the contracts being so much cheaper than iphone ones so it is relative.

My mate bought a 3gs a good few months after release and ended up selling it for £200 to get the iphone4 and so incurred a loss of what £250 after prob 8months of ownership.

Not being funny but it's quite simple to understand and is so blatantly relative it's unbelievable.

 

[Kmodo]

I know that, my point was at least the iPhone 4 feels quality, it really really has to at its (very high) price.

Samsung have in all honesty skimped on materials and have made something great, that feels cheap (doesn't bother me personally but it does most people) and wears away easily.

No word of a lie I have had many people (3gs owners) say they prefer the feel of my phone to the iphone4. I also do not like to hold the iphone4 without the bumper on

I agree on the materials could have been better but I can only relate it to PCs in that I would rather have powerful components with an OS I prefer with a cheaper materials case to subpar components overpriced with a high quality case and an OS I really do not want i.e apple!

 

[Hooa]

Agree with Komodo!

Imagine recommending an iphone to your friends and it's 9months into its release.

Do you A) say wait mate for like 3-4months for the new one
or
B) Let him pay the full £450 quid even though it's about to depreciate like crazy

With Android you always can recommend a phone to your friends anytime of the year without feeling bad because there is always choices and deals to choose from

 

[Robbo]

No word of a lie I have had many people (3gs owners) say they prefer the feel of my phone to the iphone4. I also do not like to hold the iphone4 without the bumper on

Well, in my opinion and the opinion that is reflected around the internet/people I know is that the vast majority of people would agree the iPhone 4 is a more 'premium' feeling phone.

It should be too, at its price.

If the issue is you dislike the square-ish shape of it, well thats simply a matter of opinion, it definitely feels better in my opinion.

I also prefer Android to the iPhone OS, but the iPhone 4's camera/recording, relatively better selection of apps, amazing screen and by far the best phone battery I have seen on a smartphone is the reason I'm using one at the moment.

Bumpers are horrible.

 

[Hooa]

lol. I think he was referring to squaredness in respect to the feel of the iphone4. Think about it, if it was a star shape with lots of angular edges but was made of 'premium' materials it would not feel good

But that is nothing to me anyway.

I said in June after buying the desire that I wanted an iphone 4 for better battery life, 720p camera and better games and Robbo and the rest of em were saying I got the desire for the wrong reasons ect.

Well look at him now and me for that matter :0

Galaxy S camcorder is perfect, can't see how the iphone one is that much better?! not that I use it much anyway, battery life is way better than my desire, the screen is sexy, I now love the OS and after discovering gameloft games I also have a powerful phone to run them with ease!

 

[Hooa]

To be fair to robbo I never got on with the desire either for some reason and so can forgive him to migrating to iphone4

edit: robbo you have to admit though the galaxy S with its quite significantly better hardware than your desire means it really would trade blows with your iphone 4. To the point you are left with your phone feels more premium and we your preference OS whilst being £150 cheaper in the first place

 

[Robbo]

To be fair to robbo I never got on with the desire either for some reason and so can forgive him to migrating to iphone4

I still have my Desire, I think both phones are equally good in different ways.

 

[Hooa]

I still have my Desire, I think both phones are equally good in different ways.

You wanted some strange admit it

 

[muon]

If the Desire used stock android it would get it much sooner it takes time for HTC to port it over to sense ui that's the only real reason.

Who cares what the reason is? It makes the Desire behind the upgrade curve and so a Desire owner calling the N1 old hat is ridiculous.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Who cares what the reason is? It makes the Desire behind the upgrade curve and so a Desire owner calling the N1 old hat is ridiculous.

Technically they are right though - the Desire is a newer handset than the N1, and currently, both have exactly the same software.

 

[Robbo]

Technically they are right though - the Desire is a newer handset than the N1, and currently, both have exactly the same software.

Also, the future Gingerbread software is apparently going to be taxing on current hardware, meaning that it probably wont perform better than Froyo on the Desire/N1.

 

[sarge78]

I agree about the overall galaxy s build quality, I hope its something they improve with the next version (would gladly pay ?50 more for more premium materials)

Also, the future Gingerbread software is apparently going to be taxing on current hardware, meaning that it probably wont perform better than Froyo on the Desire/N1.

That'll be a big mistake by Google if its true. Isn't it a scalable os designed to run on a wide range of devices? (unlike iOS) Can't imagine all those new mid range/budget phones running 2.2 for the next 2/3 years... (unless they're made by Sony )
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ELECTRIC CIGARETTES

 

[loltim]

Hope you don't need Exchange support dude!

 

[Totality]

I have the Galaxy S and only kept it because I couldn't return it (dialaphone is a crap company and I now live abroad so just gave up!).

If I was to do it again I would go for the Nexus One simply because it gets the updates first. We are still on 2.1 with the Galaxy FFS and the Desire has had it for a while now too. The Desire also has a lot of custom themes made for it which you can see in the Mobile Desktop thread.

The GPS on the Galaxy is also dodgy and won't hold a signal very well.

I get on well with the Galaxy as the screen is great and you can play divx files on it nateively, but the lack of support from Samsung is shocking hence I would go with the Nexus one if I did it again in the past. It's had 2.2 for months and the SGS is still waiting for it!

If I was doing it NOW though I would wait for the Desire HD as that is due out soon. HTC seem to support their customers better than Samsung and the Desire HD is better hardware than the standard one/nexus.

 

[makamiso]

I have the Galaxy S and only kept it because I couldn't return it (dialaphone is a crap company and I now live abroad so just gave up!).

If I was to do it again I would go for the Nexus One simply because it gets the updates first. We are still on 2.1 with the Galaxy FFS and the Desire has had it for a while now too. The Desire also has a lot of custom themes made for it which you can see in the Mobile Desktop thread.

The GPS on the Galaxy is also dodgy and won't hold a signal very well.

I get on well with the Galaxy as the screen is great and you can play divx files on it nateively, but the lack of support from Samsung is shocking hence I would go with the Nexus one if I did it again in the past. It's had 2.2 for months and the SGS is still waiting for it!

If I was doing it NOW though I would wait for the Desire HD as that is due out soon. HTC seem to support their customers better than Samsung and the Desire HD is better hardware than the standard one/nexus.

2.2 for galaxy s comes out next month along with a fix for the gps. People have no patiance and/or don't read announcements. And anyways my gps seems fine, the sat nav on the phone seems incredibly good, might drop signal when going through a tunnel of trees out in the sticks where i live but it finds me again not long after and seems rather good for a phone
And Samsung have been saying for weeks and weeks thats 2.2 is coming out in september i mean there is already an official UK update for the galaxy s to JP1 software (still 2.1) that improves some of the stuff already (not all of it like the gps for some people) but at least it shows they're looking to improve their customer support from previous years.

I might be the only one but i quite like the feel of the galaxy s, its very light but people seem to perceive light as cheap but meh. ok so the back isn't the most solid of plastic but i have a case for my GS to protect the screen and thus don't notice the backplate. Phone feels incredibly responsive, seems to be hard to brick which is a good thing lol and the screen is amazing. But meh i'm bias and at the end of the day i've not payed anything for it as i upgraded from the Xperia (i hated that phone towards the end of the contract, ugh resistive touchscreen never again), just my monthly contract. At the end of the day i'm incredibly happy.

 

[[TW]Fox]

If I was to do it again I would go for the Nexus One simply because it gets the updates first. We are still on 2.1 with the Galaxy FFS and the Desire has had it for a while now too.

To be fair 2.2 isn't that much better that you'd want to get a totally different phone had you had the choice again, just so you could get it earlier.

 

[Mekrel]

In regards to the Nexus 1 vs Desire argument regarding getting software first, the Google Kernel has been patched to run on the Desire so that any AOSP build can be ran on the Desire.

Also, any /system dump from the Nexus 1 can be ran too - so all those beta build that goes OTA and isn't in the AOSP can still be ran on the Desire.

Who cares about stock Android anyway, unless you're one of these idiots that cares about Linpack/Quadrant scores? Stock Android has less features and less usability than Android + Sense. Stock Android also looks like it's been designed by a child in visual basic.

 

[bhavv]

X10 Mini Pro is an androids

I mean ....

X10 Mini Pro haz androids

No, wait ....

The androids is on teh X10 Mini Pro!

 

[Robbo]

To be fair 2.2 isn't that much better that you'd want to get a totally different phone had you had the choice again, just so you could get it earlier.

In regards to the Nexus 1 vs Desire argument regarding getting software first, the Google Kernel has been patched to run on the Desire so that any AOSP build can be ran on the Desire.

Also, any /system dump from the Nexus 1 can be ran too - so all those beta build that goes OTA and isn't in the AOSP can still be ran on the Desire.

Who cares about stock Android anyway, unless you're one of these idiots that cares about Linpack/Quadrant scores? Stock Android has less features and less usability than Android + Sense. Stock Android also looks like it's been designed by a child in visual basic.

Agree with both of these. Far too much fuss about 'getting updates a few weeks earlier' that most people don't really give a stuff about

 

[paradigm]

Hope you don't need Exchange support dude!

That's what my iFail is for, or if I get desperate I've got a Blackberry Storm II sat here :shudder: