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Discuss and make a list of how BF3 and Dice have dumbed down the battlefield franchise on PC.
Dumbing down our GAMES!!!!!
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Discuss and make a list of how BF3 and Dice have dumbed down the battlefield franchise on PC.
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What the hell, who is cliffy b to talk...oh yeah UT3 wasn't dumbed down whatsoever from UT04.
And gears of war, thats such a deep game it makes my brain hurt just playing it.
And gears of war, thats such a deep game it makes my brain hurt just playing it.
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I love how he talks about Gears, that only ever got easier.
Introducting crap like grenades you can stick to walls, etc.
It's when it's a puzzle/adventure games have a puzzle come up and the camera zooms in on how to solve it, MASSIVE pet hate.
I can't comment to much on BF3 really.
Introducting crap like grenades you can stick to walls, etc.
It's when it's a puzzle/adventure games have a puzzle come up and the camera zooms in on how to solve it, MASSIVE pet hate.
I can't comment to much on BF3 really.
Its RPGs (mmos included) and RTS I personally see this most in.
It caters to the lowest denominator. The idiot.
Games like GW2 (which dont get me wrong, I love to bits) just have no challenge at the top end. You have to go all the way back to EQ2 to find this.
RTS, I guess its a niche market as it is. But the more recent offerings from Total war, Civilisation, European escalation etc just dont sit well with me (Don't let me down Rome2!)
I'm all for improving UI and mechanics and gameplay but not at the expense of challenge.
Now days, the way to make a game challenging is by unbalancing the stats of you and your enemy. Not by a change in your enemies strategy or anything else. Just make them have bigger numbers. and make yours smaller.
It caters to the lowest denominator. The idiot.
Games like GW2 (which dont get me wrong, I love to bits) just have no challenge at the top end. You have to go all the way back to EQ2 to find this.
RTS, I guess its a niche market as it is. But the more recent offerings from Total war, Civilisation, European escalation etc just dont sit well with me (Don't let me down Rome2!)
I'm all for improving UI and mechanics and gameplay but not at the expense of challenge.
Now days, the way to make a game challenging is by unbalancing the stats of you and your enemy. Not by a change in your enemies strategy or anything else. Just make them have bigger numbers. and make yours smaller.
The more dumbed down a game is the bigger the market is so I'd say yes.
I've always liked the look of Eve Online but I've never had the patience to sit down and learn how to play it, there's probably millions of people who think like that when it comes to much simpler games.
World of Warcraft has been progressively dumbed down a lot in the years I've been playing it.
I've always liked the look of Eve Online but I've never had the patience to sit down and learn how to play it, there's probably millions of people who think like that when it comes to much simpler games.
World of Warcraft has been progressively dumbed down a lot in the years I've been playing it.
Difficulty is different to being dumbed down. You can easily have a game that has differing difficulties that caters to all players. Bayonetta did that well.
Dumbed down to me means the removal of complex systems. Like with the new XCOM. They've simplified things, they've removed simulations. Its more Linear and scripted, your less free to play it the way you want
I dont want games that are pointlessly difficult I want to be able to complete all the games I buy, not be frustrated by badly designed difficulty, where they allow only a few masochistic players to get to the end.
Dumbed down to me means the removal of complex systems. Like with the new XCOM. They've simplified things, they've removed simulations. Its more Linear and scripted, your less free to play it the way you want
I dont want games that are pointlessly difficult I want to be able to complete all the games I buy, not be frustrated by badly designed difficulty, where they allow only a few masochistic players to get to the end.
They added a MUCH needed and detailed tutorial to the game. Give it another shot.
Personally for me i despise the combat system and I just dislike it. A shame because EVERY single other aspect to the game appeals to me SO much. But i want the twitch combat.
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He says at 3:35 they were partially responsible for that and that they are guilty as charged.
He knows it, hence why he's said what he has.
Video games are a huge industry now, with big publishers having meetings with lots of executive types who can't see beyond the business and the money. These are the people that think its a good idea to dumb games down. Unreal Tournament suffered in exactly the same way the battlefield franchise has, and the COD franchise, and the Mass Effect franchise.
Cast your mind back to Doom II ? who played the game all the way to the end, defeated the end of level boss on Icon of Sin and thought "nah, too easy for me. I'm going to do it on Ultra-Violence.
Not many thats for sure. All games have definitely been dumbed down. But i doubt that is going to change any time soon, so just play the games and enjoy it.
wheres that picture comparing an old doom map or whatever it was to a map from a new game?
one map was corridors and rooms all over the place
the other was a corridor with cutscenes.
even simple corridor maps are getting smaller aswell and filled with more checkpoints.
herp a derp dev > but the player might get lost....
omg hes right! tomb raider was a massive fail because it wasnt a straight line corridor game!
one map was corridors and rooms all over the place
the other was a corridor with cutscenes.
even simple corridor maps are getting smaller aswell and filled with more checkpoints.
herp a derp dev > but the player might get lost....
omg hes right! tomb raider was a massive fail because it wasnt a straight line corridor game!
