Dyslexia

dirtydog · 18 Aug 2009 at 15:59

Nitefly said:
It isn't a case of being lazy, unless you consider spending around 2 hours proof-reading 2 written sides of A4 being particuarly lazy. Sadly, it's just one of my (very few ) weak points.

I daresay you could find a professional proofreader, perhaps a freelance one who would be willing to proofread your work for an agreed fee.

kEn_sct · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:01

also to the argument before by dirtydog "that how can you be at uni" and "you spell like a 4 year old"
shows well what dyslexia is. I somehow manage to be in 3rd year doing chemistry at the university of edinburgh... but yet i still cant spell. and this isnt due to the help iv been given as i was only diagnosed 6 moths ago and have only gone 1 semesters exams with extra time.

Jono8 · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:03

dirtydog said:
Are you suggesting that his views on dyslexia are wrong because he abused the expenses system? That seems like a non-sequitur.

Exactly. I don't see how they are both linked :confused:

kEn_sct · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:04

Jono8 said:
So, so far i have had the Holocaust and Ghosts used as analogies.

yes the point was to prove its not an argument to say "experts say so"

Understand now??

Nitefly · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:04

dirtydog said:
I daresay you could find a professional proofreader, perhaps a freelance one who would be willing to proofread your work for an agreed fee.

Oh don't worry, I enlist the help of friends and family which means that 95% of the time things run smoothly. The trouble happens when I have changed a mistake that somebody has pointed out to me, yet it hadn't saved. Then I can't pick it up again the next time around. Very silly really as one mistake can potentially be fatal.

To be honest, anybody that doesn't ask somebody else to proof-read for them is asking for it - it's much harder to pick up your own mistakes as you read what you want to read.

deuse · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:05

dirtydog said:
Are you suggesting that his views on dyslexia are wrong because he abused the expenses system? That seems like a non-sequitur.

He is not even qualified to make that claim about poeple.

MumboJumbo · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:05

kEn_sct said:
yes the point was to prove its not an argument to say "experts say so"

Understand now??

try speaking slower and louder

MumboJumbo · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:06

deuse said:
He is not even qualified to make that claim about poeple.

neither are they. But they beleive they are.

dirtydog · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:07

Nitefly said:
Oh don't worry, I enlist the help of friends and family which means that 95% of the time things run smoothly. The trouble happens when I have changed a mistake that somebody has pointed out to me, yet it hadn't saved. Then I can't pick it up again the next time around. Very silly really as one mistake can potentially be fatal.

To be honest, anybody that doesn't ask somebody else to proof-read for them is asking for it - it's much harder to pick up your own mistakes as you read what you want to read.

True

Jono8 · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:07

kEn_sct said:
yes the point was to prove its not an argument to say "experts say so"

Understand now??

So it is ok as long as experts agree with your viewpoint?

What facts are you basing dyslexia on then :confused:

zytok · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:07

kEn_sct said:
also to the argument before by dirtydog "that how can you be at uni" and "you spell like a 4 year old"
shows well what dyslexia is. I somehow manage to be in 3rd year doing chemistry at the university of edinburgh... but yet i still cant spell. and this isnt due to the help iv been given as i was only diagnosed 6 moths ago and have only gone 1 semesters exams with extra time.

no offence dude but you say you were only diagnosed 6 months ago yet by your own admission, your spelling and grammar is awful. What did you put it down to before? Just interested as myself and a few others have suggested that it might just be down to being poor at English and wondered whether you thought the same way until someone told you that you had dyslexia?

Also, does your inability to spell etc actually affect your Chemistry studies? I wouldn't have thought that a command of English was particularly important anyway but then I didn't go to university so no idea how much writing is involved.

Jono8 · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:09

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/features/article1847619.ece

That is an intersting read^

“The irony here is that the decoding of information – ie, reading – does not require a high degree of intelligence,” he says. “Comprehension of information is linked to IQ, but reading is not.” Furthermore, he says, so-called symptoms of dyslexia – letter reversal, clumsiness, poor short-term memory and inconsistent hand preference when writing – are commonly found in all who struggle to read, not just those considered to be dyslexic.

Wicksta · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:14

Jono8 said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/features/article1847619.ece

That is an intersting read^

Well that's shut them up, maybe they are still reading it though....

(sorry)

kEn_sct · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:14

zytok said:
no offence dude but you say you were only diagnosed 6 months ago yet by your own admission, your spelling and grammar is awful. What did you put it down to before? Just interested as myself and a few others have suggested that it might just be down to being poor at English and wondered whether you thought the same way until someone told you that you had dyslexia?

Also, does your inability to spell etc actually affect your Chemistry studies? I wouldn't have thought that a command of English was particularly important anyway but then I didn't go to university so no idea how much writing is involved.

It didnt effect me really at standard grade Higher and advanced higher work is much simpler and less demanding than univeristy level work. I realised i was poor at eglish when i did higher english but didnt realise i had a problem. Then i moved in with a dyslexic flat mate in 2nd year. He picked up the fact that i was showing a lot of dyslexic traits, so he advised me to go in for a test. i didnt at first but after i failed one of my 1st semester exams that was essay based i decided to go for the test.

MumboJumbo · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:15

zytok said:
no offence dude but you say you were only diagnosed 6 months ago yet by your own admission, your spelling and grammar is awful. What did you put it down to before? Just interested as myself and a few others have suggested that it might just be down to being poor at English and wondered whether you thought the same way until someone told you that you had dyslexia?

Also, does your inability to spell etc actually affect your Chemistry studies? I wouldn't have thought that a command of English was particularly important anyway but then I didn't go to university so no idea how much writing is involved.

Might i point out at GCSE i have an A* in english litriture and english language. The reason for this being i carefuly picked words i thought i was spelling correctly and that english exams them selves are not really based on spelling. My grama on the other hand when i try hard can be quite good. English is based on your ability to undersatnd what has been writen and put your view across on it mainly at lower levels i found examination wize. Your inability to spell only comes at a dissadavantage mainly for things like CV's when its crushal. But the inability to spell isn't the main problem with dislexia when it comes to exams. Extra time doesn't help you spell better becuase you oftern cannot see your mistakes.

And as for chemistry i can say my self that i had problems with some chemicals. Apart form spelling them obserdly but things like

Ethanal, Ethanol, Alkene Alkane etc. You see the problems?

Jono8 · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:17

8igdave said:
Might i point out at GCSE i have an A* in english litriture and english language. The reason for this being i carefuly picked words i thought i was spelling correctly and that english exams them selves are not really based on spelling. My grama on the other hand when i try hard can be quite good. English is based on your ability to undersatnd what has been writen and put your view across on it mainly at lower levels i found.

And as for chemistry i can say my self that i had problems with some chemicals. Apart form spelling them obserdly but things like

Ethanal, Ethanol, Alkene Alkane etc. You see the problems?

So you got an A* in English Language yet you still went for a dyslexia test because you spell chemicals badly?

The mind boggles.

MumboJumbo · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:17

Wicksta said:
Well that's shut them up, maybe they are still reading it though....

(sorry)

I didn't read it actually because i know it will prove nothing because its just a random article wrote by someone who had a view they wanted to express.

I could find you most probably thousands of articles saying it does exist.

dirtydog · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:18

Jono8 said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/features/article1847619.ece

That is an intersting read^

“The irony here is that the decoding of information – ie, reading – does not require a high degree of intelligence,” he says. “Comprehension of information is linked to IQ, but reading is not.” Furthermore, he says, so-called symptoms of dyslexia – letter reversal, clumsiness, poor short-term memory and inconsistent hand preference when writing – are commonly found in all who struggle to read, not just those considered to be dyslexic.

Good article.

Jono8 · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:19

8igdave said:
I didn't read it actually because i know it will prove nothing because its just a random article wrote by someone who had a view they wanted to express.

I could find you most probably thousands of articles saying it does exist.

As apposed to an article written by someone who has a view they wanted to express.....but in your favour. :confused:

Words cannot express.....

MumboJumbo · 18 Aug 2009 at 16:20

Jono8 said:
So you got an A* in English Language yet you still went for a dyslexia test because you spell chemicals badly?

The mind boggles.

No i was diagnosed from year 10 as dislexic. All previous exams ive ever taken before i got the help i needed were C grade or bellow or inequivlance with the numbre system used at lower levels.

The help i got has really changed my life and what i can achive.

Might i also point out at a young age around 11/12 (forget exacly when) i was tested by a phycologist who said i was in the top 2% of the country in everything but spelling and reading where i was the bottem 5%. Bit of a contradiction don't you think. Which is the case for many dyslexics might i add where they find their abilities are very bi polar when you compare reading/writing to other skills like maths and sciences for instance.