Are you dyslexic? I can't remember but there are four glaring errors in your post.
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Are you dyslexic? I can't remember but there are four glaring errors in your post.
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See 8igdave's post for the example on writing.People who need a wheelchair generally can't walk (at all, or far) without one, AFAIK. I doubt the NHS give them out willy nilly. Although then again, what am I saying
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Why, its not about being unfair its about being fair to dyslexic students. How about we do what you say.
We start teaching students in the way Dyslexics need to be taught and those special one's who don't have Dyslexia can have the extra time and facilities they need to succeed. I would be happy to give back my iMac in the same course of events if the tables were turned.
I am very good at managing my money and if I hadn't have been given the iMac I would have taken on extra work to save for it the point is be not having to take on extra time i was able to focus on studying giving me extra time and reducing stress. I didn't get the 25% extra time some get because of this.
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Its good to see some people are finally on my side and that the imature people are being shown up in this argument.
I don't think finger pointing at lazy people is going to help justify your argument. Considering I had to write bullet points rather than finishing my last set of essays instead of conclusions, I would quite like some extra time myself - and I really do try.
That isn't to go against the point you are making so to speak, rather that the point you made simply wasn't very good.
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Im not quite so how what i said backs up your statement? Are you saying that someone should fail uni and school because they can't make notes and become a bum and end up in a cousil house becuase they have no qualifications due to no fault of their own?
Yes i am, i fail to see the problem. I also have another eye problem where they altinate making it very hard to read.
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The point is your not medicaly slow. You think your slow? We are even slower. We cant help it, its required.
Why must you all argue, you think any dyslexic person wants to be? Your fools if you do.
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I don't see the point in this argument no one will agree and I don't see that I have to justify why I should be given help and a non-dyslexic student shouldn't be given help.
I just scrapped under a first at university when I graduated and I got 6 A-Levels at and above C. I am very happy with what I have managed to do and especially looking at my inferior school grades where I didn't get the help I needed.
I just scrapped under a first at university when I graduated and I got 6 A-Levels at and above C. I am very happy with what I have managed to do and especially looking at my inferior school grades where I didn't get the help I needed.
I'm not disgruntled at people who need help for their dyslexia - they certainly should get it. I'm just disgruntled at people who are from my experiences equal or superior to my own intellect and abilities, who get extra time in examinations when it is very suspiscious that they actually need it.
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The point is the examination system as it stands is geared towards non dyslexics. That means they are put at a dissadvantage. It has to be evened out.
Thats like racing men against women and saying tough you women are just worse at it.
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Yes i dislike this too. I sit in my A levels and there are suposidly about 10 people that need extra time. I garantee you every time at least 7 will walk out with everyone else.
But if they arnt taking their extra time then whats the deal?
Furether more for uni you have to pay about 200 quid to prove your dyslexic. So they will find them selves short of 200 quid.
Any person who requires a laptop extra i garantee you is a proved very bad dyslexic. As you can see I cant spell for shiz but i could never get one because my hand writing is just about legible.
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This is not a discussion about wheather or not Dyslexia exists and yes there can be fakes when people try to get help when they don't need it this is fraud and just like scamming the government for doll money its illegal, being against the law doesn't mean it doesn't happen but it does make it illegal and punishable.
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I'm arguing for the dyslexics here.
What I mean is that your friend would technically be "fine" without a laptop but it is borderline necessary as otherwise he wouldn't have a decent chance at succeeding academically. The way I see it, it's a very good thing to give him that opportunity.
And at the people who are complaining about the costs, I'm sure there are plenty of other areas which the government could cut spending in before removing that chance for people.
money isnt a valid argument. It costs the goverment nearly nothing. The government payes 10,000 pounds a year for me to uni anyway. Im on a 5 year course so thats a total of 50,000. now compare that to the money i got for my dyslexia £2880. thats only 5.8% extra per dyslexic student. so on the grand scales of things its nothing.
And also you sure your flatmates cheated the test??! its extramly hard to fool the test. As when you have an interview with a phycologist, they are trained to spot if your "faking it" and the way the test works it would be very hard to fake anyways. If the did compleatly fail it that Phycologist should be fired!!!! and its people like that that give dyslexia this bad image.
Anyway to all those who are saying "dyslexia is fake", "read more" "dont be lasy."
iv covered this in earlyer posts so i sujest you read them, you seem to just come across ignorant and i get the feeling you get your information for a tabloid article or at the pub.
And also you sure your flatmates cheated the test??! its extramly hard to fool the test. As when you have an interview with a phycologist, they are trained to spot if your "faking it" and the way the test works it would be very hard to fake anyways. If the did compleatly fail it that Phycologist should be fired!!!! and its people like that that give dyslexia this bad image.
Anyway to all those who are saying "dyslexia is fake", "read more" "dont be lasy."
iv covered this in earlyer posts so i sujest you read them, you seem to just come across ignorant and i get the feeling you get your information for a tabloid article or at the pub.
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It's not about being jealous (though the correct word is envious btw) as I couldn't live with myself knowing I'd got something for free rather than earned it; it's also not about being immature, I have stated quite openly and maturely that I believe that in some cases dyslexia may be a real medical condition but that I believe that in most cases it is used as an excuse for lazy or poor spelling/memory/grammar that is easily treated by reading a few books and paying attention.
The thing about extra time still bothers me unfortunately, whilst I have no doubt that it benefits the individual, it seems unfair to other students who may have other complaints such as headache/hayfever/hangover who find it equally difficult to concentrate on the exam. Providing an exception for one group of people seems unfair to me.
Don't get me wrong, I am equally if not more so vehemently repulsed by people who claim benefits when they don't actually need them, it's not just a rant at dyslexics.....
No its not.
Dyslexia is another meaningless learning difficulty resulting from too many psychologists having too much time on their hands.
I agree with this guy:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1090255_dyslexia_doesnt_exist_mp_says
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I'm arguing for the dyslexics here.
What I mean is that your friend would technically be "fine" without a laptop but it is borderline necessary as otherwise he wouldn't have a decent chance at succeeding academically. The way I see it, it's a very good thing to give him that opportunity.
And at the people who are complaining about the costs, I'm sure there are plenty of other areas which the government could cut spending in before removing that chance for people.
Haha, i must have you confused with someone else as previous posts i saw looked like you were against. Sorry
Yeah exacly. Quite disappointed people even felt they could argue this point to be honest. Some people are so ignorant and think they know it all.
I don't believe there is a medical reason for your English to be that bad, sorry.
I appreciate your point, but it is difficult for me to say that anybody in an A-level exam is truly pushed for time. I plan out essay-based answers to every question that I can think of prior to the exam to give me the best sporting chance, and I still can't finish the papers in time (Masters level).
There certainly are reasons. You can only really appreciate them if you know somebody who is truly dyslexic.