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E6300 = Allendale or Conroe?

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I was reading wiki just now and it mentioned that Intel have confirmed that the 6300/6400 are not Allendale and are Conroes with the extra 2mb of cache disabled, is this true?

For a very long time, it was considered that stripped down versions of the Conroe processors were code-named Allendale. In actuality, Allendale is a code-name for a different processor. Many suggest that E6300 and E6400 are actually code-named Allendale, however, the E6300 (1.86 GHz) and E6400 (2.13 GHz) processors are not code-named Allendale because they physically have 4MB cache, same as their big brothers E6600 and E6700 - it is just that half of their physical memory is disabled. Traditionally, CPUs of the same family with less cache simply have the unavailable cache disabled (this allows parts that fail quality control to be sold at a lower rating). The fact that E6300 and E6400 are not code-named Allendale and actually code-named Conroe has been confirmed by Intel themselves.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2
 
Wiki also says that "An E4300 Allendale (1.8 GHz, 800 MT/s FSB) will be released in the 1st quarter of 2007."

If im correct then this statement is not true. The new ones will be 1 core, 1mb cache and will be called Millville.

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"Because, at one point, somebody stated that Allendale had 2 MiB of cache and an 800 MT/s FSB, and thus that the E6300 and E6400 weren't Allendales. Then I split the current and future products into separate sections, so that the future products section could have the "future product" template in it, rather than having a common section for both with a "future product" template in it referring to the future products (that combination confused at least two people who removed the "future product" template, presumably thinking it was referring to the current products), and then somebody else stated that Allendales have 2 MiB of cache but don't necessarily have an 800 MT/s FSB, and that the E6300 and E6400 are Allendales, but didn't bother adding an "Allendale" subsection to the "current products" section and putting information about the E6300 and E6400 there."
 
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wizardmaxx said:
Wiki also says that "An E4300 Allendale (1.8 GHz, 800 MT/s FSB) will be released in the 1st quarter of 2007."

If im correct then this statement is not true. The new ones will be 1 core, 1mb cache and will be called Millville.
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You're thinking of Core 2 Solo's, they're not going to be the 4300's. The solo's are apparently codenames Conroe-L
 
I am assuming that it would be pretty much impossible to re-enable the 2mb of extra cache? It would be an interesting experiment for those pin mod experts that would like to try though.
 
I would have thought that the OP was correct with the first few batches - it would make sense for Intel as well to use one run of a plant and with the low spec chips laser cut the extra cache so it cant be used.

I am sure by now some "natural" allendales have been appearing in E6300 /E6400

Even the early reviews of these chips called all of the range conroe's , even though the more adament cough anal cough on this board insist that only the £6600 and above should be deemed conroe

This is a cut and paste from OCUK's own allendale / conroe description:

Intel’s Conroe design makes their older Pentium chips look very, very ordinary. As far as gaming performance goes, Intel is looking very strong and as we have predicated and Intel told many people at the Computex show throughout the week, Intel is looking like they will be the gamer CPU of choice in the remainder 2006 and all of 2007. If you crave the absolute quickest CPU for your PC their is nothing faster than Intel latest Conroe processors, be prepared as you will be amazed. The E6xxx series offer great value for money and are a favourite choice amongst overclockers with reports of overclocks well over 3.2GHz already achieved with just basic air cooling. Intel is set to take back the performance crown for 2006 and 2007 again!

....to me implies all E6xxx range are all conroe - even though the banner on each seperate product highlights the conroe / allendale difference.

I would also suggest the above is straight off Intel's own site at some point in time(whether this has changed more recently I dont know), which leads me to believe at some point Intel themselves were calling the whole range Conroe

Just my way of understanding the situation....


Darg said:
I am assuming that it would be pretty much impossible to re-enable the 2mb of extra cache? It would be an interesting experiment for those pin mod experts that would like to try though.
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More than likely impossible yes - I dont think it will be like it used to be with the old amd's and ancient intel's by just linking two bridges or something.
 
GeForce said:
To put it simply:

All E6x00 Core 2 Duos are designated "Conroe". Allendale will be released next year.

Jon
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If they did release a new processor next year called Allendale it would cause some confusion with people who don't really keep up to date with all the latest releases, there's a few websites at least that have the E6300 and E6400 listed as Allendale.
 
cpu-z states my E6300 as "allendale"... not only that but i was lead to believe that different amounts of cache = slightly different chip architecture = different core name...
 
So they actually spent more effort denying us the extra 2mb of cache just so we'd buy the E6600s.. cruel even if it makes business sense.

Personally I see allendale as a subset of conroe.
 
Darg said:
So they actually spent more effort denying us the extra 2mb of cache just so we'd buy the E6600s.. cruel even if it makes business sense.
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a lot less effort than it would take to do a seperate production line - but I get what yur saying also - :D
 
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