e6300 standard heatsink + fan

beast · 26 Nov 2006 at 19:31

With the retail version you obviously get a heatsink+fan. Is it any good as in can you overclock slightly using the standard? or not adviseable? as I know the conroe chips run cooler than previous models.

PaulProteus · 26 Nov 2006 at 19:41

This seems as a good option.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-017-AR

Cob · 26 Nov 2006 at 19:44

The stock heatsink is crap for anything over stock speeds.

Snapshot · 26 Nov 2006 at 20:36

PaulProteus said:
This seems as a good option.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-017-AR

Seconded. Buy the OEM version of the E6300 and put the money saved towards an AC7Pro.

Jonathan

Big.Wayne · 26 Nov 2006 at 20:39

Snapshot said:
Seconded. Buy the OEM version of the E6300 and put the money saved towards an AC7Pro.

Jonathan

yeah you could do that or just buy the retail version for the re-sell value . . . The cost difference between the two is a few quid

I would most likely use a 3rd party cooler though and leave the stock one all nice and new in the box

beast · 26 Nov 2006 at 22:45

Well I have a cooler master fan anyway, So I'll leave the stock fan in new condition.

area512003 · 30 Nov 2006 at 14:36

Cob said:
The stock heatsink is crap for anything over stock speeds.

UNTRUE!

I have an E6300 using the standard Intel heatsink & fan overclocked @ 2.5GHz (358FSB x 7) and it is 28C idle and 42C load!!

Nuttah · 30 Nov 2006 at 22:19

area512003 said:
UNTRUE!

I have an E6300 using the standard Intel heatsink & fan overclocked @ 2.5GHz (358FSB x 7) and it is 28C idle and 42C load!!

Hmmm...find that hard to believe. What you using to read that?

As for my experience, I could overclock using the stock cooler, however, once I started going for 2.5ghz+ the temps under load were hitting over 60 degress - which worried me a little, so I cut back until I got a better cooler.

I really wouldn't reccomend going for too much with stock cooler, get yourself either a Tuniq Tower or Freezer 7 if on a budget.

Big.Wayne · 30 Nov 2006 at 22:24

Nuttah said:
Hmmm...find that hard to believe

Depends what the 'test' conditions are, if he has the case side off and its sitting next to an open window . . .

Nuttah · 30 Nov 2006 at 22:32

Big.Wayne said:
Depends what the 'test' conditions are, if he has the case side off and its sitting next to an open window . . .

in an igloo in the north pole..

valerian · 30 Nov 2006 at 22:35

have you noticed that the oem is guaranteed for 1 year, and the retail for 3

area512003 · 30 Nov 2006 at 22:43

Nuttah said:
Hmmm...find that hard to believe. What you using to read that?

As for my experience, I could overclock using the stock cooler, however, once I started going for 2.5ghz+ the temps under load were hitting over 60 degress - which worried me a little, so I cut back until I got a better cooler.

I really wouldn't reccomend going for too much with stock cooler, get yourself either a Tuniq Tower or Freezer 7 if on a budget.

Hmmmmm MSI's own Core centre software, Everest, Motherboard monitor, speed fan, blah, blah, blah show identical temps.

Big.Wayne · 30 Nov 2006 at 22:49

area512003 said:
blah, blah, blah

Have you heard of 'overcooling' before?

Nuttah · 30 Nov 2006 at 23:13

area512003 said:
Hmmmmm MSI's own Core centre software, Everest, Motherboard monitor, speed fan, blah, blah, blah show identical temps.

Not sure about Everest but the rest read of them read temps from a different sensor then to that of Coretemp or TAT. From my experience Coretemp & TAT give results approx 10 degrees more then speedfan etc...

Big.Wayne · 30 Nov 2006 at 23:18

Nuttah said:
Not sure about Everest but the rest read of them read temps from a different sensor then to that of Coretemp or TAT

I heard these names banded around before, what are they? got any linkage pls

area512003 · 30 Nov 2006 at 23:31

Big.Wayne said:
Have you heard of 'overcooling' before?

Yes. I have heard of overcooling.

Overcooling a system can lead to problems due to differential shrinkage rates. At the same temperature, different materials shrink or expand at different rates. Metals vs plastics vs composites have different physical characteristics, which can cause serious physical strains at best. Differntial component shrinkage rates can lead to significant strain on the MoBo and components attached to it.

And this is before i get into the issue of condensation on the components of an agressive coolling system. And where is this condensation on the tubing and cooling blocks going to go, I wonder.

First, peltier and phase change systems are somewhat esoteric to bring up in this discussion. Liquid cooling systems have some interesting condensation issues which are almost never raised.

For example, Prometia's "Stage Phase Cooling". Overcooling can cause condensation to form on the hardware. Therefore, I have a stonkin' large de-humidifier in the room my PC sits in so condensation hopefully does not become a factor.

But we are talking serious overcooling like Cryogenic temperatures, say on the order of LN2 or LHe, could damage a CPU if not done properly.

Nuttah · 30 Nov 2006 at 23:38

Big.Wayne said:
I heard these names banded around before, what are they? got any linkage pls

To the programs or comments on them?

I believe TAT is written by Intel, Thermal Analysis Tool as i remember. Probs best to Google it to find it.

Coretemp is simple a cpu temp measuring app. Again, google is your friend.

I think both of these programs red directly from the cpu die whereas the rest use a different sensor, from everything I have read these two are the most reliable temp measuring apps.

Nuttah · 30 Nov 2006 at 23:42

area512003 said:
Yes. I have heard of overcooling.

Overcooling a system can lead to problems due to differential shrinkage rates. At the same temperature, different materials shrink or expand at different rates. Metals vs plastics vs composites have different physical characteristics, which can cause serious physical strains at best. Differntial component shrinkage rates can lead to significant strain on the MoBo and components attached to it.

And this is before i get into the issue of condensation on the components of an agressive coolling system. And where is this condensation on the tubing and cooling blocks going to go, I wonder.

First, peltier and phase change systems are somewhat esoteric to bring up in this discussion. Liquid cooling systems have some interesting condensation issues which are almost never raised.

For example, Prometia's "Stage Phase Cooling". Overcooling can cause condensation to form on the hardware. Therefore, I have a stonkin' large de-humidifier in the room my PC sits in so condensation hopefully does not become a factor.

But we are talking serious overcooling like Cryogenic temperatures, say on the order of LN2 or LHe, could damage a CPU if not done properly.

You been reading Wikipedia?

So what cooling you actually got then?

area512003 · 30 Nov 2006 at 23:56

Nuttah said:
You been reading Wikipedia? So what cooling you actually got then?

Thermatake Mambo case with 120mm fan at rear blowing out , 2 x 90mm side fans blowing in and 2 x front 90mm fans blowing in.

By the way, "Core Temp" reads my E6300 (when at 2.5GHz) 35C idle and 46C when on full load with Prime95. It never goes near 60C @ 2.5GHz!

See http://www.filefactory.com/file/2ca3e7/

Scroll down to "download for free with FileFactory Basic" to download file.