EA distribute the hardcopys, so only deal with the printing, and distribution, publishers can exercise a degree of control but this is bound by strict contracts, valve will get a slice, as will EA, valve have all the control here though and in fact would probably not make a blind bit of difference to valve if ubisoft or activision were the publishers, EA wanted their name on that box as much as valve wanted a big publisher on it
EA Attempts Hostile Take-Two Takeover
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Tend to agree with EA bashing being a bit old but whether or not those are examples of good games to come out recently is surely a matter of personal preference... 
Of the two I'd say are 'okay' I'd still regard as disappointments.
Of the two I'd say are 'okay' I'd still regard as disappointments.
Publishers (if PUBLISHING a title) have FULL control, not a degree of control. If they want the game changed, they can - because generally speaking, publishers will fund the whole game and own the IP.
Tend to agree with EA bashing being a bit old but whether or not those are examples of good games to come out recently is surely a matter of personal preference...
Of the two I'd say are 'okay' I'd still regard as disappointments.
Aye, but that could be said for any publisher.
whilst they have got better i do still have that lingering feeling that they dilute the full talent of a development house when they introduce their EA bureaucracy and, usually, unreasonable deadlines, this is where the quality reduction comes from now, not just EA going "make this title cos its cheap, easy, and muppets will buy it"
Again, this is a industry wide thing - not just an EA thing. It happens to 3rd-party developers as well as first party.
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Well I'm bashing them partially because they are monopolising. We have nothing to gain from them owning even more of the games industry.
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But ask yourself this; Why are EA so desperate to buy out Take-Two ?
Is it to make GTA IV better ? No, that's highly unlikely, even impossible.
Is is to make shed loads of cash ? Yes, and this is immoral (If Take Two were on the verge of bankruptcy, then maybe it would be ok), and anti-competitive (owning a fair few of the decent devs). EA are greedy, and will do whatever it takes to get even more money in their own pockets. That's all it's about, it's definitely not about making gamers happier.
Is it to make GTA IV better ? No, that's highly unlikely, even impossible.
Is is to make shed loads of cash ? Yes, and this is immoral (If Take Two were on the verge of bankruptcy, then maybe it would be ok), and anti-competitive (owning a fair few of the decent devs). EA are greedy, and will do whatever it takes to get even more money in their own pockets. That's all it's about, it's definitely not about making gamers happier.
I went to a video games conference in Swansea last year.
Loads of major and indy developers attended.
Indy teams talked about game engines, talked about the idea behind their games.
Guess what EA spokesperson did?
Played a 5 minute promo vid of EA games.
Says a lot tbh.
Loads of major and indy developers attended.
Indy teams talked about game engines, talked about the idea behind their games.
Guess what EA spokesperson did?
Played a 5 minute promo vid of EA games.
Says a lot tbh.
Valve also published the Orange Box on Steam. Think about it, if EA had full control of HL2 et al would they let people buy the game in a way that totally by-passed their boxes in store.
Didn't EA port the PS3 version, because Valve wanted nothing to do with it? Think that's the only work they did apart from distribution. There's no way Valve would give up any rights or control over the Half Life series.
John Riccitiello said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7294812.stm
its clear you havent been gaming very long
also EA only published Crysis and Orange Box
they dont own crytek or value (not yet anyway
)EA bashing is more than justified
The Orange Box is not an EA game. FIFA08 was disappointing. I've been playing FIFA for years and it's obvious they just bang out a game (or two!) a year in a shameless profit-making exercise. I've never heard of Skate or Burnout Paradise, what are they like?
Not on mine it doesn't.
Valve are a bunch of MS fanboi's and couldn't be bothered figuring out how to code for the PS3
(coding for the PC and 360 is supposed to be very similar). Hence they outsourced PS3 dev to an EA studio, who had already learned to code for the PS3.I've no problems with that (other than HL should never be ported to any console at all
) as everyone seems to win out of it. Valve increase sales, EA get paid for developing it, PS3 owners get the Orange Box.
SAND by any chance?
Correct.