+1 i agreeNothing, because I've already sold it. It's gone. Not mine anymore.
Just the same as almost everything that gets sold secondhand....
Example.. someone buys your GPU card off you and nvidia/ATI get nothing..
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+1 i agreeNothing, because I've already sold it. It's gone. Not mine anymore.
But a company earns more money selling 500 000 copies at £30 then another 500 000 at £15 a few months later than putting the initial price at £15 and selling 1 000 000 copies at that
As someone mentioned in the thread in the console forum, in a few years all games will be digital download only, including console games, so there will be no 2nd hand market. None at all.
kylew how would you feel if you created something, that I then sold for my profit and you get zilch?
Tefal, your point would be valid if the 2nd buyer got a brand new car or house, which you don't its either got a mileage or the roof needs renervating etc, when buying a 2nd hand game you get the full product, ok maybe once in a while no manual.
I myself would be annoyed too if I didn't work in game dev but doing so has open up my eyes to the other side of the fence.
End of day it's life so get on with it!![]()
You just keep making things up to suit your argument, don't you? Even with the link provided by Tefal, you still just cannot accept that you were wrong.
Even though I hate crappy DRM, Piracy blaming etc etc I personally don't mind this, second hand sales don't see any money go the publishers/developers. Yeh it sucks, I remember buying second hand snes game (those were the days). All in all buying second hand games has the same affect as piracy for game makers, and thus a problem.
Tefal's link is crap, an idiot could see that.
I will accept I'm wrong when EA backtrack on their scheme, citing a serious drop in game profits.
Tefal's link is crap, an idiot could see that.
I will accept I'm wrong when EA backtrack on their scheme, citing a serious drop in game profits.
I love all you hard-done-by gamer geek hippies citing unfairness. Pay, or don't pay. Just shut up about it, please?
Hard done by?What are you talking about?
Additionally, do you understand the point of a discussion forum?
Figure it out.
No, that's why I've been discussing the issue for the whole day.![]()
Figure it out.
No, that's why I've been discussing the issue for the whole day.![]()
Can you explain to me why I should? If I create a product and sell it, I've got my money for that product.
And why do you think it's down to you to decide that? You buy a second hand graphics card, you're still getting the full product, if I bought a second hand graphics card and it didn't work as it should, I'd be sending it back, that's not an excuse at all.
No it hasn't opened up your eyes to the "Other side of the fence" you're simply being greedy, you've sold your product once, under no circumstances should you expect payment a second time around for the product you've already sold, it doesn't work like that.
Games developers are simply being greedy, they can see people making money on their products, after they've been sold retail, and are now trying to devise a way of getting their greedy hands on some of that money.
I seriously can't understand why anyone would even suggest that this is fair and reasonable.
It's ridiculous and quite plainly obvious what the companies are up to.
Ok maybe not zilch but not as much as you could have because some 3rd party company earns most their profit on trade ins just just aint right.
So would I because I would have bought that graphics card in good faith as working condition, where as in this case I would be aware of the missing content before purchase, so I don't see your point here![]()
Nah I don't work for EA and if I did I wouldn't be making them decisions, I myself aint being greedy.
Why SHOULD they see any money? People who think they should must be living in some fairytale land or something.
I guess I see your point, my feelings were more towards the smaller developers that need all the in-come they can get, but I can understand it being another form of a money spin for the much bigger company's like Activition etc. I guess thats why we see a lot more DLC content, pay and free for fresh retail sold games to act as a incentive.