eBay fraud with a refreshing twist

MajorPart · 21 Sep 2006 at 10:20

Cuchulain said:
he'll end up having to pay the court fee's on top of the money he owes you back.

If he can prove it was knackard before he bought it then yes he has a case, but he can't afaik.

One More Solo · 21 Sep 2006 at 10:33

The issue of damage is a difficult one I accept but for anyone who knows anything about speakers, it takes a while to fry a voice coil. I also couldn't test the item as I didn't have a suitable amp in the car I was driving. Will try calling later then investigate the small claims route. It's "only" fifty quid, but there is a lot of principle involved, selling a broken item via the post is one thing but handing it over face to face? Bit cheeky, imo, and I don't like it. The guy was living with his parents as well and I bet they don't know half of what he gets up to. The rest of his eBay lots were clothing and probably fake going on other eBay sellers.

MeatLoaf · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:11

I really dont think he would have tried to sell you a faulty item face to face. What if you asked to test it, hed be screwed.

Although if he knew you were coming its pretty bad form not to be in.

One More Solo · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:33

MeatLoaf said:
I really dont think he would have tried to sell you a faulty item face to face. What if you asked to test it, hed be screwed.

Although if he knew you were coming its pretty bad form not to be in.

The guy was there (I spoke to his dad while the son (the seller) went to get it) but he left with his mate almost as soon as he'd handed the item over to me, thought nothing of it at the time.

dokko · 21 Sep 2006 at 11:39

Throw the sub through his window (with a note attached stating 'this is just the start'), worth £50 any day of the week.

Magic_x_uk · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:03

not the best cause of action Dokko, OP would get in more trouble than the sub could ever bring.

Criminal damage, could hit someone, best to just try and ring him and see if he will sort it out that way.

I would think a solicitor would be pointless for the sum of £51, although i could be wrong. I usually am

Steve09 · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:15

Where abouts does this person live?
I live in Leicester

and I am a Hitman <<<<<

stigggeh · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:17

he may not have known?

The reason he may not be replying is because he thought it was fine....... he may think its you that have broken it or you are trying to pull a fast one.

i mean if you had to post on a car audio site to find out what was up with it, i think its safe to assume he may not have known.

theultimate · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:21

send a stocky bald man to his house and then he will soon poop his pants!

FakeSnake · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:31

Not sure what you will be able to do, with it being picked up untested. I can understand Paypal refunding an untested, posted item. Byer beware maybe, you should have tested it.

On the other hand, send him a keyboard with a few keys missing, telling him 'The keyboard warrior', will visit and remove the corresponding fingers to keys on the keyboard.

One More Solo · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:33

stigggeh said:
he may not have known?

The reason he may not be replying is because he thought it was fine....... he may think its you that have broken it or you are trying to pull a fast one.

i mean if you had to post on a car audio site to find out what was up with it, i think its safe to assume he may not have known.

I thought he could have made an innocent mistake too, but when his account disappeared that about sealed it for me.

CF93 · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:43

Hate to say it but second hand goods are sold as "caveat emptor" - basically "buyer beware".

Meaning:
"The axiom or principle in commerce that the buyer alone is responsible for assessing the quality of a purchase before buying."
or
"let the buyer beware: the principle that the seller of a product cannot be held responsible for its quality unless it is guaranteed in a warranty. "

The fact you picked it up in person means you really should have checked it. But if it's provable as a deliberate scam now the ebay account has gone, you might be lucky.

VeNT · 21 Sep 2006 at 12:51

CF93 said:
Hate to say it but second hand goods are sold as "caveat emptor" - basically "buyer beware".

Meaning:
"The axiom or principle in commerce that the buyer alone is responsible for assessing the quality of a purchase before buying."
or
"let the buyer beware: the principle that the seller of a product cannot be held responsible for its quality unless it is guaranteed in a warranty. "

The fact you picked it up in person means you really should have checked it. But if it's provable as a deliberate scam now the ebay account has gone, you might be lucky.

not true, if he sold it as working (rather than stating that it was broken) and there is proof then he has commited an offence.

One More Solo · 21 Sep 2006 at 13:52

This is the item in question anyway; http://www.onemoresolo.co.uk/sub.3GP.

Sounds good, eh?

chucky · 21 Sep 2006 at 14:19

i think you should give out his mobile number, and we can all send him some nice messages.

Malt_Vinegar · 21 Sep 2006 at 14:34

Personally, i think you should nuke him from orbit.

Its the only way to be sure.

One More Solo · 21 Sep 2006 at 14:52

Malt_Vinegar said:
Personally, i think you should nuke him from orbit.

Its the only way to be sure.

Might send him some mustard.

Steve09 · 21 Sep 2006 at 14:57

One More Solo, what Village does he live in?
I'm not going to go round, just curious as I'm from Leicester.

CF93 · 21 Sep 2006 at 15:05

VeNT said:
not true, if he sold it as working (rather than stating that it was broken) and there is proof then he has commited an offence.

Agreed, but the problem is that there's no proof.....it's one persons word against another and if it went further to say court as some have suggested, then it's "buyer beware" unless the seller confesses.

(not that I'm saying the OP is lying, I'm not meaning to imply or say that at all.)

One More Solo · 21 Sep 2006 at 16:04

CF93 said:
Agreed, but the problem is that there's no proof.....it's one persons word against another and if it went further to say court as some have suggested, then it's "buyer beware" unless the seller confesses.

(not that I'm saying the OP is lying, I'm not meaning to imply or say that at all.)

It's OK, I know you're a law type but you don't need to cover your back on here, I'm not going to sue for libel.

The evidence is overwhelmingly in my favour though.

For the record the seller lives just off Melton Rd, though I won't say which road is his.