Encryption chip to stop pc piracy.
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good, then maybe we wont have to use a nocd crack to play the game without the CD/DVD in
The thing is, the hardware enthusiast market is tiny compared to the general PC market. Imagine HP or Dell putting these chips on the motherboards of all the PC's they sold. There wouldn't exactly be a mass exodus as I don't imagine most "average users" would care.
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An 'unhackable' chip will just mean every hacker in the world is racing to crack it first. It will probably be done in the first week.......
Personally I dont see why game companies bother putting even a no-cd copy protection, as people who want an illegal copy will get it reguardless. The only real way I see is by using the same method as HL2, register online or you cannot install. I try to buy pc games, and most these days have some online features anyway, and new releases are usually 25quid off cheap gaming websites.
25quid seems a fair price, especially when pc releases are 99.9% of the time better than the console versions. I have vegas2 on pc, the graphics are not great but at 1080p it stll looks sharp and smart.
Personally I dont see why game companies bother putting even a no-cd copy protection, as people who want an illegal copy will get it reguardless. The only real way I see is by using the same method as HL2, register online or you cannot install. I try to buy pc games, and most these days have some online features anyway, and new releases are usually 25quid off cheap gaming websites.
25quid seems a fair price, especially when pc releases are 99.9% of the time better than the console versions. I have vegas2 on pc, the graphics are not great but at 1080p it stll looks sharp and smart.
This.
I know were all used to the idea that nothing is uncrackable, but I still quite like the idea. I'd be happy to buy a motherboard with one installed. Perhaps in years to come this could be mandatory.
iirc steam copy protection was hacked long long ago.
Edit: yep 20 seconds searching it is, you just run some .bat file instead of the .exe.
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older pcs are less likely to be able to run new games over time due to the spec
But HL2 was cracked so I don't see this is anything relevant.
The only way they can do anything is by using CD Keys to play online as the offline version will always be available via piracy.
It makes me laugh when someone says something is uncrackable. Of course it is! Everything is crackable given time and movement in technology. If people bought a board with this chip in weeks later there would be schematics out there on how to remove/bypass it.
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Actually it is possible to have unhackable but that level on encryption is actually illegal, especially outside the united states where their government cannot crack it.
However most peoples computers could not unencrypt a 20Gb game install that has 512bit encryption in a reasonable time frame.
However most peoples computers could not unencrypt a 20Gb game install that has 512bit encryption in a reasonable time frame.
yes you will, 1 week after the bypass/crack for the chip comes out they will just say '"oh well time to annoy ppl with our cd protection again"
thing is.. the only ppl that annoys/affects is the ppl who buy the games and dont use no-cd cracks so why punish those who buy your product?
if the protection wasnt there ppl could happily install the game and keep their original cd safe and not have to search for it everytime they want to play.
why would they need to ?
you just download the game with all the hard work done and click on the .exe/bat file and your good to go.
you can have unbreakable encryption sure, but the thing is when it's being decrypted on your computer, there are plenty of weak points in which you can get to it/the keys without having to break the encryption.
And then as memory said, the game is decrypted and released on torrents etc and the users need never worry about how it was done.
That or their just going to find a way to emulate the chip....
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Do you guys not thing that all this anti-piracy stuff is just going to drag people away from the pc's and towards the consoles.
Did you read that mass effect and spore will need online activation every 10 days!!!
Crackers get their buzz from cracking software protection and they won't give up if more so called protection comes out they'll keep at it and crack it within what a week? a month?
Did you read that mass effect and spore will need online activation every 10 days!!!
Crackers get their buzz from cracking software protection and they won't give up if more so called protection comes out they'll keep at it and crack it within what a week? a month?
yeah the only real protection you need is a basic CD key to just stop the "borrow the disc from my mate" kind of piracy, after that everything just hassles the legitimate buyers, not the pirates.
i dont think it drives ppl away from pc gaming so much but do think it drives ppl towards piracy.
1) it was every 15 days not 10.
2) no it wont they decided onto to do it after a massive user backlash.
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fair point. Haven't really been up to date this week with the news. Way too much work. All done now. Just need a new game...
Best way to stop piracy is for people to just stop pirating. People need to realize if they pirate a game that developer has no money to make the next game, so the pirates are just destroying their hobby and hurting themselves. It really is that simple.
It just needs to click in peoples brains, and it will do eventually.
It just needs to click in peoples brains, and it will do eventually.
i dont think the developers are the pirates tbh....i could be wrong though
This is true, however, the OEM market is so cut-throat that every penny counts, 10p per unit saved on a bulk purchase of motherboards could translate in to thousands of pounds extra profit if they are shifting a lot of units....what is the incentive for OEM's to use this chip?
why would they knowingly give themselves bad press by using the chip?