Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

[jpaul]

What do you mean ‘lol’?

None of that has anything to do with hydrogen. You cite LNG as when I actually said oil of you read my post.

picture, I'd seen during lng discussion illustrates astronomic carbon cost/25% in incurred in the processing/delivery of LNG ... so, similarly, what is the carbon cost that will be saved by shell using hydrogen for oil fractioning

even oil based plastics aren't all recyclable and their production involves carbon, so decarboniziation (zero carbon?) is relevent for oil use there.

Shell Energy to make major change for customers - thousands could save money​

SHELL Energy is offering customers the chance to switch back to a fixed tariff, helping them to save money. The energy provider, which has approximately 1.4 million customers, will offer those who …

www.thesun.co.uk

hmmh - government may put in a new scheme next April, or, for following winter, so moving back to a fix could be short-sighted,
OFGEM have currently knobbled the market and said contracts can be offered exclusively to existing customers, but they need to reopen the market if it has ongoing credibility.

 

[krooton]

It possible according to the power meter I have.
Using Afterburner to cap it to 55% power usage and using a custom curve, then CPU is capped more or less at the 65w settings, I still get 140FPS on Warzone and World of Warships, I've got a couple of pictures on my phone of when I was gaming showing the figures I quoted above, by comparison, I also have 2 from before I had tweaked the system one showing 294.4w and another showing a nice round 515w...

Just seems weird, I have my 3060ti FE capped at 60%, and pull 120w from that, and my undervolted 3600 peaks at around 55w, and that isn't factoring in any other draw from my machine or my monitor.

 

[413x]

How much Electric does everyone use per day? Im around 8-12KWH per day, family of 4, 3 bed bungalow. My PC is the worst offender at 600w when gaming.

8-10kwh most days

Rarely 6 and 12.

Both full time WFH.
Me, partner and dog.
3 bed detached. But size of house doesn't make much difference.

But the big offender is the 10KW shower!
When that bad boy cranks on, the smart meter goes red!

 

[413x]

With the monthly £66 Gov support I’m currently getting paid about +£20 a month for electricity use, and that includes the cost my ‘fuel’ bill !

Our electricity is basically free with the 66.

Gas however is bumping up cost now.

 

[Doobedoo]

how often are people supposed to get vouchers for energy?
I'm on prepayment and had one last month for 66 at the start of the month, should I have had another this month?

I’ve just had my second one through the post. The letter itself was dated the 4th.

 

[Doobedoo]

Our electricity is basically free with the 66.

Gas however is bumping up cost now.

This seems to be quite a trend with a lot of people basically paying nothing for electricity. Complete waste of taxpayer money that could go to people that actually need it.

 

[413x]

This seems to be quite a trend with a lot of people basically paying nothing for electricity. Complete waste of taxpayer money that could go to people that actually need it.

Yeah I but on flip side we will be paying for it anyway!
But yes. Poorly targeted!

 

[Doobedoo]

Yeah I but on flip side we will be paying for it anyway!
But yes. Poorly targeted!

Of course we will be paying for it but it’s money that could be going toward the nhs etc .

 

[Tinders]

I got a curious email from octopus today they want to up my DD. I’m already paying £690 (before the discount). They want to up it to £770.

Admittedly prior to the price hikes we used to burn £20 notes in the boiler alongside the gas, but my typical DD under avro was only £250. I took measures in the summer to use less fuel in general and I do have a credit balance of 1k. If anything my DD should be going down not up.

I assume they just use a crappy algorithm to determine the DD levels? They are taking the Michael

 

[n111ck]

I got a curious email from octopus today they want to up my DD. I’m already paying £690 (before the discount). They want to up it to £770.

Admittedly prior to the price hikes we used to burn £20 notes in the boiler alongside the gas, but my typical DD under avro was only £250. I took measures in the summer to use less fuel in general and I do have a credit balance of 1k. If anything my DD should be going down not up.

I assume they just use a crappy algorithm to determine the DD levels? They are taking the Michael

Should just be last 12 months / 12

 

[OldKitMan]

So, this is again The Sun, we've worked out years ago that they're not a great source, but, if you take it at face value it suggests that Shell know there's a price drop coming and they want to tie people into a fixed tariff now before the prices actually drop so they can get more out of customers, or is that me being overly sceptical?

well given that shell energy are a bunch of ***** then I wouldn't put it past them the absolute ******* that they are.

 

[redfist]

I got a curious email from octopus today they want to up my DD. I’m already paying £690 (before the discount). They want to up it to £770.

Admittedly prior to the price hikes we used to burn £20 notes in the boiler alongside the gas, but my typical DD under avro was only £250. I took measures in the summer to use less fuel in general and I do have a credit balance of 1k. If anything my DD should be going down not up.

I assume they just use a crappy algorithm to determine the DD levels? They are taking the Michael

Do have a grow farm or something??

 

[Doobedoo]

Do have a grow farm or something??

Yeah those sodium lamps need replacing with some led’s.

 

[Stu999]

This seems to be quite a trend with a lot of people basically paying nothing for electricity. Complete waste of taxpayer money that could go to people that actually need it.

Yep, so far I'm now paying less per month than before all the price rises. Should have limited to household incomes under £30k but obviously that's much harder to implement than just giving it to everyone.

 

[Surveyor]

Yep, so far I'm now paying less per month than before all the price rises. Should have limited to household incomes under £30k but obviously that's much harder to implement than just giving it to everyone.

Because they haven't been collecting your Direct Debit?

 

[Doobedoo]

Yep, so far I'm now paying less per month than before all the price rises. Should have limited to household incomes under £30k but obviously that's much harder to implement than just giving it to everyone.

The £400 payment will basically pay my electricity bill for the next year. People could have claimed for it and to receive it you need to prove that you are struggling. Billions that could pay for nurses to get a payrise or teachers.

 

[Stu999]

Because they haven't been collecting your Direct Debit?

Ha ha, no I've still been paying by card when that snafu occurred and I've since re-established the DD. I mean my net costs of energy consumed - the £66 is less.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I got a curious email from octopus today they want to up my DD. I’m already paying £690 (before the discount). They want to up it to £770.

Admittedly prior to the price hikes we used to burn £20 notes in the boiler alongside the gas, but my typical DD under avro was only £250. I took measures in the summer to use less fuel in general and I do have a credit balance of 1k. If anything my DD should be going down not up.

I assume they just use a crappy algorithm to determine the DD levels? They are taking the Michael

Possibly, possibly not. £1k credit is nothing when your bill is £700 a month. People need to recalibrate what’s a reasonable credit balance when bills have tripped.

It’s not very useful posting up direct debit amounts. What is your actual usage in kWh and what are your unit rates?

Edit: why is your usage so high? Do you have an EV or multiple EVs?

 

[413x]

Pretty much pays for our electricity.
1 pound for electricity in October.

Remember we are full time WFH too!

 

[Stu999]

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