Engine Warming

My car drivers better when warmed up so I take it easy until it reaches 90'c, which doesn't take long as the 1st mile is dual carriage way and then after the next 2 miles of motorway it's normally warmed up. I also don't put the heaters on either as this increases the time it takes to warm up, instead I put the heated seats on.

MW
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
My diesel Focus takes bloody ages.
I take it easy until the temperature needle has at least started moving.
I would never floor it until the needle is at (or very near) the correct temperature. I also ensure for the last few hundred metres of a journey I stay off the turbo completely in the Focus, as the last thing I want is a turbo spinning with dry bearings.
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Same.
 
I think most BMWs have an oil temperature guage rather than coolant :)

Mine can take up to 10 minutes to get to normal temp, so i tend not to drive hard until it has got there.
 
Matt82 said:
Both of mine take about 2 mins to get to full water temp, oil temp follows shortly after

I do laugh when I hear a neighbour thrash their car off up the road in the morning.

Some cars get such an awful life
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I don't laugh, I cringe!



Matt82 said:
Aand how many modern cars actually have oil temp gauges?
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My girlfriend's 75bhp 1.4 Peugeot 207 does. I was surprised!




I always wait a fair while longer than the water temp needle reaching the middle if I am going for a proper hoon
 
However, at same time. the manufacturers make these cars knowing that there being sold to average people not people that actually care. Generally, all cars get driven the same cold as they do when hot, most owners just "drive" and the cars are fine. So...can ask yourself does it really matter.
 
Why don't the manufacturers just limit max throttle until the engine has heated up?
It would be easy as afaik all modern cars are 'drive by wire' and so capping the throttle at (say) 60% would work wonders. Or perhaps limit the turbo boost instead.

I think it is fair to say Mr and Mrs average would thrash a car that is freezing cold that was due a service 2000 miles ago.
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
Why don't the manufacturers just limit max throttle until the engine has heated up?
It would be easy as afaik all modern cars are 'drive by wire' and so capping the throttle at (say) 60% would work wonders. Or perhaps limit the turbo boost instead.

I think it is fair to say Mr and Mrs average would thrash a car that is freezing cold that was due a service 2000 miles ago.
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Limiting cars is unsafe. Rather have the poke your used to when you need it most, than hit throttle cut/lower rev limit.
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
Why don't the manufacturers just limit max throttle until the engine has heated up?
It would be easy as afaik all modern cars are 'drive by wire' and so capping the throttle at (say) 60% would work wonders. Or perhaps limit the turbo boost instead.

I think it is fair to say Mr and Mrs average would thrash a car that is freezing cold that was due a service 2000 miles ago.
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cause that would be dangerous

you give full throttle expecting just 60% power not realizing engine is fully warmed up and bam smash into the back of a ford galaxy with about 30 immigrants in it
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
Why don't the manufacturers just limit max throttle until the engine has heated up?
It would be easy as afaik all modern cars are 'drive by wire' and so capping the throttle at (say) 60% would work wonders. Or perhaps limit the turbo boost instead.

I think it is fair to say Mr and Mrs average would thrash a car that is freezing cold that was due a service 2000 miles ago.
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why would they care?

its a first owner-centric process. the damage is not likely to make itself known until well after the warranty is run its course. an engine limiting performance will only act as an inconvenience to the first owner. the original owner has gone and bought another new model by the time the engine/turbo is screwed

the last thing the manufactuer wants is for the first owner to be inconvenienced!
 
I have always wondered why cars don't have a sensible rev limit of something like 4k until the oil has reached a certain temperature
 
Howard said:
I have always wondered why cars don't have a sensible rev limit of something like 4k until the oil has reached a certain temperature
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Then again, on my last skyline the link g4 ecu i had installed had a rpm limit of 4krpm until water temp of 65 was read by ECU. The ecu also would have allowed many other inputs if wanted to add the sensors on which it could act, like oil temp say. But, thats a skyline and a modified turbo etc, and owned by myself and the other owners that followed me will all likely be in same mindset of warm up procedures. Not Joe Bloggs
 
On my Golf (no easily accesible oil temp) I take it very easy for about 10 mins. On my Corrado I keep to around 1500 rpm until the oil is at least 80 degrees. This usually gets me from my house to a lovely roundabout and slip road onto the A3 where I can start opening up the aural pleasure :)

I always leave the Corrado MFA on oil temp rather than anything else.
 
As Vauxhall didn't bother putting any kind of temperature gauge in the Astra H I happily rag it from cold (but then I pretty much have to as I join a NSL about half a mile after leaving home...)
 
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