I think this punishment is leanient, we should have been made to play a game behind closed doors.
But sonsidering we usually get treated far worse than anyone else it's about time we got some leinency.
Other countries fans are a lot worse, domestically and at home, but England fans travel very badly, i don't know what it is, mabye it's the we are English and by right much better than anyone else and should be abel to do what we like psyche that these idiots have, when Italian fans seem when following Italy are not too much of a problem, mabye thir hooligans, have a sense of national pride and do not want to tarnish their nation or something.
Domestically, the Italians, Spanish, Argentinians, Turks, Germans and others are far far worse than us and rarely get punished, because they do not go on and on about it in their papers calling themselfs disgraceful.
When English teams were banned from Europe, it was all blamed on the Liverpool fans, but from what i have come to understand about the situation, Liverpool fans were forced into the Juve fans by the disgraceful police force, in a stadium that wasn't fit for conference football, oddly enough trouble broke out, as it would if you force that amount of rival fans together, especially in a heated game, then peple paniced and surged forward and a wall collapsed, and people were crushed and sadly died.
This should have been investigated thoroughly, as to why the game was at the first place played at such a sub standard stadium, why the police took such obviously stupid action. and to why the trouble broke out. But the English media did all the work for them, the fans were branded as nutcases that should be strung up, and we were a disgrace, and as the government jumped on the bandwaggon, Uefa had no option to take harsh action in the light of the condemnation from home sources.
If this had been Barca v Juve, the same thing may well have happened, but i highly doubt the spanish media would have been up in arms and the government would almost definately not got involved, and a more suitable punishment would have been administered.
A good few years ago at a fiorentina match, a small explosive device was thrown onto the pitch, which injured a referee, this game had already been moved to a neutral venue because of trouble at fiorentina games, yet when this happened ralatively leinient punishment was given out. If that had been at old trafford after an Arsenal game had been moved due to trouble, i highly suspect that we would have been kicked out of europe again.
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, everytime there is a tourny, its the idiots from our side who have been involved,everytime.We export more hooliganism all over europe than any other country, the turks are bad too,But in all honesty we are worse, at the game in question the turks werent involved.