Enoch

[VIRII]

Are you pretending that the exchange between you and CBS, clearly attacking Spawn, who hadn't even posted at that point, just didn't happen?

I particularly liked the "When I write Spawn I start it with a c" line.

Here are the attacks on me from spawn in one thread alone this afternoon.
Are you pretending these have not happened?
Am I expected to just take it and take it and take it because my views don't align with yours?
Why have YOU said nothing about these posts?

Hmmm plenty of people including me have answered his questions without silly retorts but does he ever get the message that he keeps coming out with the same ole crap time and time again. One of the reasons why i have put him on ignore because i simply cannot be bothered to listen to his usual tirade against ethnics, islam and muslims. Plus the fact that when he posts, his posting style is extremely aggressive and insulting, to the extent that if you dont agree with his views he makes silly childish retorts or quips...which to me are troll like.

You would think that someone of his intelligence would have realised that by now but i guess its hard to flog a dead donkey at the best of times.

Unlike the rage that seems to accompany your posts eh??, im answering your post in a calm manner..unlike yours Virii, which is filled with anger and !!!11!!! type of useage etc and the sooner you realise that and admit to it the better. They say the raod to recovery is to acknowledge that you have a problem .

Oh well i had to take you off my ignore list, seeing as someone just pointed out this reply to mine.

Me fly off the handle??, ahhh Virii looks like you got yourself confused there. If anything you are the one who flies off the handle when someone doesnt bow down to your views...not only to me but to plenty of others and please dont ask me to show proof because id make u look like pretty silly. At least i dont resort to petty insults and telling people to STFU or **** off etc etc.

By all means criticise islam but at least get your facts right instead of turning to the Daily hate etc. Really i dont give a hoot if you attack islam, makes no difference to me tbh but what i do take offence to is when people make baseless remarks without any sort of research behind it. That annoys me more than anything and then i look at the poster and think...hmmm no point in me trying to tell him differently as he wont botehr listening.

Never accused anyone of racism but xenophobia??, yes i admit to calling one or 2 members that, whcih incidentally i feel is justified. Your posts espcially when it comes to muslims and islam reek of xenophobia...try not to take it too hard though. As i like to say if the shoe fits then so be it.

I now expect nothing more than a hate filled rant in reply to this..so again i bid you goodbye and off you go onto my ignore list..this time hopefully forever.

I have, hes now back on ignore...only took him off because of his post which i felt i had to set straight..without much success i might add.

 

[Royality]

CBS posted a BBC article for discussion.
Visage immediately jumped on it and attempted to trash the thread.
Royalty followed suit.
I requested that the thread not be trashed.
Shackley then attacked me asking why I was "obsessed with RTMing posts"
Vonhelmet posted at me "shutup dumbass"

And then it went downhill from there although one or two posters seemed intent on trying to find something to be offended about.

Visage joined the thread with the intention of trashing it. It looks as though he got his wish.

I think you'll find I posted first.

I have to say, I regret making my first post. I usually avoid these kind threads due to how they usually end up but I rashly posted what I felt CBS was trying to portray in his post.

Saying this is 'trying to find something to be offended about' is a misguided assumption. I realised that I could have misinterpreted CBS's OP and said so, I still think his intention was to create controversy though.

(To CBS) If you want to avoid people soiling your discussions maybe you should stop loading them with purposefully ambiguous and controversial statments, or infact, not post them at a time when this topic is already prevalent in GD.

 

[VIRII]

I think you'll find I posted first.

I have to say, I regret making my first post. I usually avoid these kind threads due to how they usually end up but I rashly posted what I felt CBS was trying to portray in his post.

Saying this is 'trying to find something to be offended about' is a misguided assumption. I realised that I could have misinterpreted CBS's OP and said so, I still think his intention was to create controversy though.

If you want to avoid people soiling your discussions maybe you should stop loading them with purposefully ambiguous and controversial statments, or infact, not post them at a time when this topic is already prevalent in GD.

Was anything that I posted ambiguous?
I did not find CBS post ambiguous, I accept that you did.
What did I post that was controversial?

 

[Royality]

Was anything that I posted ambiguous?
I did not find CBS post ambiguous, I accept that you did.
What did I post that was controversial?

The last part was CBS specific.

 

[VIRII]

The last part was CBS specific.

Ok.
SO what did I do that was in anyway wrong in this thread?

 

[Royality]

Ok.
SO what did I do that was in anyway wrong in this thread?

I never said you did anything wrong.

 

[VIRII]

I never said you did anything wrong.

OK I'll rephrase.
Did I do anything wrong? After all according to Rich I'm involved in vomit inducing ego masterbation that is particularly apparent in this thread.
He refuses to actually give some evidence to back up his accusation.

Ahhh now he has gone offline rather than admit he's wrong and that his post was simply complete ballcocks.

 

[jegz]

Surely this whole thread now represents the invalidity of the saying:

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend till the death your right to say it"

It seems that freedom of speech is taking the shape of:

"your free to say it as long as the majority agree with it"

The op was not biased in any way tbh. (disregarding ongoing feuds) it just invited the opportunity to read an article from the BBC website and cite your views on it

I cited my views on the article, but it seems i was the only one as it u-turned into a flame war.

 

[Scania]

"She is becoming afraid to go out, windows are broken. She finds excreta pushed through her letterbox. When she goes out to the shops she is followed by children, charming wide-grinning piccaninnies."

Enoch was right. And it seems he wasn't even misleading over details either.

Wrong. He (Enoch) missed the detail that the above "She" could so easily be Black Asian or White to endure the above in todays society.

 

[jegz]

Agreed.

That is the reason I stated that the speech was not that far from the truth if a few words/phrases that are more fitted to the year 2007. Although not too far from the truth that it is irrelevant.

Pretty well predicted about the happenings in this country at this time. regardless of creed or color of the perpetrators imo.

 

[VIRII]

Surely this whole thread now represents the invalidity of the saying:

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend till the death your right to say it"

It seems that freedom of speech is taking the shape of:

"your free to say it as long as the majority agree with it"

The op was not biased in any way tbh. (disregarding ongoing feuds) it just invited the opportunity to read an article from the BBC website and cite your views on it

I cited my views on the article, but it seems i was the only one as it u-turned into a flame war.

Absolutely. Any opinion expressed in GD that is not pro PC, pro Immigration and Pro Islam is getting the poster not the post rabidly attacked by a core of posters. If you either respond, defend yourself or descend to their level you personally are singled out and accused of being the problem.

This thread is a perfect example of that. Yet the accusers can NOT show any evidence to support their claims. It seems absolutely crystal clear that these accusations are not based on the actual posted content but purely upon the posters overall political view. If I post it, no matter what it is, the Zealots will jump on me.

If someone makes an accusation of vomit inducing behaviour then I think that when called upon that person should back it up with some evidence or apologise unreservedly.

There are 4 pages of non stop personal abuse aimed at me and a couple of others in the handshake thread. Not one comment from Rich against their behaviour or comments. Not one. Never has been one. Smacks of lies and bias.

 

[VIRII]

Wrong. He (Enoch) missed the detail that the above "She" could so easily be Black Asian or White to endure the above in todays society.

Is that because he wrote the speech then and not now?

 

[jegz]

I totally agree with you VIRII.

Anything that is not pro pc is totally frowned upon which imo is totally contradicting freedom of speech which is "apparently" one of the fundamental groundings for politics.

A grand example is recently I saw a BNP political poster pasted on a lamp post promoting the BNP, now the next time i saw it it had been defaced with various abusive graffiti!

Ok i may not agree with that parties policies at all but at the end of the day they have just as much of a right to profess their opinion as the next party but alas because it grates the masses they get abused.At the end of the day if you stop certain people you disagree with from airing their opinions without discrimination is that not as bad as being those people your criticising in the first place ?????

 

[Royality]

OK I'll rephrase.
Did I do anything wrong? After all according to Rich I'm involved in vomit inducing ego masterbation that is particularly apparent in this thread.
He refuses to actually give some evidence to back up his accusation.

Ahhh now he has gone offline rather than admit he's wrong and that his post was simply complete ballcocks.

You insulted Spawn in a thread he hadn't even posted in unecessarily, you say 'It does indeed seem in GD that attacking posters is far more important than attacking the arguments presented.' and then go on to do exactly the same, with no provocation.

Whilst I don't think your ego is 'vomit inducing' it's certainly overbearing and unaccommodating.

 

[Carzy]

Good show Rich_L, once again you hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately no-one will take any notice, so it's a vain hope Gotta laugh at the "he's gone offline rather than admit he's wrong" comment. People have things to do Visage you realise, places to go, people to see, try it sometime.

You saying you don't find Spawn cool?

*sigh*

Why do these CBS, Virii, Visage threads always just descend into people getting one-up over each other. Always have this image of CBS and Virii high-fiving each other behind their keyboards. "*chortle chortle* we're so pseudo-intellectual aren't we, we really showed them lot! *pat on back*"

Don't worry, it must be because I share Visage's political beliefs that I think this way, not that I can see through such utterly childish behaviour.

I can never get my head around these threads, how can people be so utterly deluded?

(oh and the reason people don't post pages of evidence is because it's not worth the time because it's SO BLOODY OBVIOUS)

 

[VIRII]

You insulted Spawn in a thread he hadn't even posted in unecessarily, you say 'It does indeed seem in GD that attacking posters is far more important than attacking the arguments presented.' and then go on to do exactly the same, with no provocation.

Whilst I don't think your ego is 'vomit inducing' it's certainly overbearing and unaccommodating.

I have endured a week of non stop attacks from spawn and generally tried to ignore them.
I posted some of his snipes at me from this afternoon.

I think you'll find it was CBS who took a dig at spawn and his PMSL comments, I simply confirmed if he was referring to Spawn.

I have had a gutful of provocation. Read the muslim handshake thread the last 6 pages or so if you don't believe me.

 

[VIRII]

*sigh*

Why do these CBS, Virii, Visage threads always just descend into people getting one-up over each other. Always have this image of CBS and Virii high-fiving each other behind their keyboards. "*chortle chortle* we're so pseudo-intellectual aren't we, we really showed them lot! *pat on back*"

LOL. SO despite the fact that Visage immediately trolled this thread with his black people can't swim comments it is CBS and I highfiving? ROFL.
What do you think was the purpose of Visages post in this thread right at the beginning?

Incidentally if the evidence is so obvious post it. It is simply not enough to claim it and then not post it when challenged. RichL had plenty of time to reply before deciding that he could not actually back up his statement.

I'll be looking forward to seeing your criticism of those who you align with politically in other threads when they start kicking off as per visage in this thread. Will we ever see it though or will your criticisms be reserved fro those who you disagree with politically?
If they are reserved soley for those whose politics conflict with yours then how valid is your criticism of posters and posting styles? It simply can't have any weight to it if it is not evenly applied.
Perhaps you can point me to your criticisms of shackley, visage, spawn, dark shadow, raz et al? Surely there must be some.......

 

[Royality]

I totally agree with you VIRII.

Anything that is not pro pc is totally frowned upon which imo is totally contradicting freedom of speech which is "apparently" one of the fundamental groundings for politics.

A grand example is recently I saw a BNP political poster pasted on a lamp post promoting the BNP, now the next time i saw it it had been defaced with various abusive graffiti!

Ok i may not agree with that parties policies at all but at the end of the day they have just as much of a right to profess their opinion as the next party but alas because it grates the masses they get abused.At the end of the day if you stop certain people you disagree with from airing their opinions without discrimination is that not as bad as being those people your criticising in the first place ?????

Some things, however subjective they are, are intolerable and wrong. Free speech allows these things to be said but it also allows reactions, like the poster being defaced.

 

[VIRII]

Ok i may not agree with that parties policies at all but at the end of the day they have just as much of a right to profess their opinion as the next party but alas because it grates the masses they get abused.At the end of the day if you stop certain people you disagree with from airing their opinions without discrimination is that not as bad as being those people your criticising in the first place ?????

What happens here is that when they realise they are unable to adequately counter you politically they insult you and attack you, then blame you if you respond.

 

[Royality]

I have endured a week of non stop attacks from spawn and generally tried to ignore them.
I posted some of his snipes at me from this afternoon.

I think you'll find it was CBS who took a dig at spawn and his PMSL comments, I simply confirmed if he was referring to Spawn.

I have had a gutful of provocation. Read the muslim handshake thread the last 6 pages or so if you don't believe me.

I'll do that tommorow. I have an exam tommorow at 9 so it's goodnight from me.